Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and politicians

2014-01-28 Thread Dieselhead
beyond the pale The phrase beyond the pale dates back to the 14th century, when the part of Ireland that was under English rule was delineated by a boundary made of such stakes or fences, and known as the English Pale. To travel outside of that boundary, beyond the pale, was to leave behind

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-28 Thread Dieselhead
Randy sez: I am not an economist and cannot explain how it all works, but I cannot help but wonder how much good it does to raise the minimum wage. We raise the wage and since employee costs are usually one of the biggest items on the books, the prices have to be increased. Then the employee

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-28 Thread Dieselhead
Interesting you mention Bill Gates. He has put a lot of his fortune into his philanthropic foundation (and I think plans for all of it to go there when he dies). He also promotes other rich folks doing something similar, either to his foundation or to their own to do good things. The

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-28 Thread Dieselhead
Osamacare is paying homage to Fat Teddy Kennedy. Kennedy coined the term Osama to refer to O'Bummer So, Yes, Osamacare is just another name for O'Bummercare, O'Bunglercare or what have you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-28 Thread Larry T
Yeah, I think you're right - 99.9% of the politicians are the same - they are in it for themselves IMO. I believe T Cruz and M Lee are the exceptions but these guys (meaning politicians in general) change their stripes at the drop of a hat (or dollar bill) - but I think the media is much to

Re: [MBZ] Literature?

2014-01-28 Thread Curt Raymond
Starship Troopers is one of my favorites, just checked and it was written in 1959! My favorite is still Friday, followed by Space Cadet and Have Spacesuit will Travel. I never finished Stranger in a Strange Land but I was very young when I started it, I should try again. -Curt Date: Mon, 27

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-28 Thread Dieselhead
What type of dangerous legislation would you expect these days from Congress? It seems that their incapacity might be a good thing, based on Grant's quote from Will Rogers - The most dangerous place in America is Congress in session Really - what type of legislation do we need? I posit we

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-28 Thread Dieselhead
So a funny anecdote about rich idiots. Last year Bill corralled a bunch of his rich buds and had them down here at Kiawah for a coupla days to talk about this philanthropy giveawayyourmoney thing. We have a little airport here, it was wall-to-wall with jets. This old black guy who lives up

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-28 Thread Curt Raymond
You cheap bastard! ;) I do $2 a day. Its amazing how much nicer the room gets when you leave the money. In Argentina I left American money and delightful Argentine chocolates appeared on my pillow. -Curt Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 23:34:22 -0500 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To:

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-28 Thread Larry T
That's an interesting picture you paint! you mentioned the horse at 10mph - that would have seemed like you were going incredibly fast at the time! People never saw much higher speed than 10mph unless falling from a cliff until the mechanical engines were created (a little before your 100

Re: [MBZ] Nebraska or North East? was - 123 steering wheel (some cat content)

2014-01-28 Thread Curt Raymond
Most all the New England states are weird because theres a very liberal/progressive streak with hippy enclaves here and there. In MA Amherst (right around the college of course) is very hippy centric. Then there are good ole boy rednecks with guns and big diesel trucks and whatnot which sort of

Re: [MBZ] NE = New England

2014-01-28 Thread Dwight Giles
Sorry for the abbreviation but I was responing to Mao's post about living in New England. As Curt's post noted New England is not the same as the Northeast. On Jan 28, 2014 7:55 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Most all the New England states are weird because theres a very

Re: [MBZ] Literature?

2014-01-28 Thread Frederick Moir
Curt. Somewhere those books are hiding in my bookcase(s). If you like, I will look for Stranger.. and bring it to breakfast sometime? RAH! RAH! RAH! RIP. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens

2014-01-28 Thread G Mann
'll add another line in the suggested chapter since we don't like war and bloodshed. How about no health care for people older than 65. The challenge is to live to age 65 in such a way that you have no health issues. Lose the boomers, more jobs for the unemployed youth that have education debt,

[MBZ] And now for something completely different

2014-01-28 Thread Rich Thomas
Not a Merzaydeez engine but still cool http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/01/nissan-3-cylinder-le-mans/ --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] And now for something completely different

2014-01-28 Thread Randy Bennell
On 28/01/2014 1:01 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Not a Merzaydeez engine but still cool http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/01/nissan-3-cylinder-le-mans/ --R ___ Hmmm - drop that into a Smart car and you have a 400 HP sleeper. Randy

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the tips

2014-01-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Reminds me of that Aussie classic, Now you'll Think I'm Awful. Not to mention my all time favorite series - Barry McKenzie I spent 3.5 yrs. in Fiji 40 + years ago and unavoidably came into contact with a bunch of Aussies and Tassies. Since it's a relatively small country, you might know some of

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and politicians

2014-01-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Or perhaps: undereducated, opinionated rednecks, clinging o their guns and religion.. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:07 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: beyond the pale The phrase beyond the pale dates back to the 14th century, when the part of Ireland that was under English rule was

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
For everyone's benefit, Australia has a no tipping mentality, or used to have one. 40 years ago if you tried to tip a Sydney cabbie he would bite your hand off. The meters ran in pennies, so it was always tempting to round up. I remember being driven for what seemed like forever and the fare

Re: [MBZ] NE = New England

2014-01-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Wha does the acronym MAO stand for anyway? On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.comwrote: Sorry for the abbreviation but I was responing to Mao's post about living in New England. As Curt's post noted New England is not the same as the Northeast. On Jan 28, 2014

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens

2014-01-28 Thread Mountain Man
Grant wrote: Individual choice, or states choice, who owns the individual, that individuals life and work effort? It is a question debated in each generation, isn't it? Why? Why? - because we all want more, not less. Shall we start the less-for-me political party? Does anyone want to join?

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-28 Thread Mountain Man
Andrew wrote: Who among you tips hotel room maids by leaving a fiver on the pillow as you check out? I don't do hotels. They are disgusting. This is based on reports from a person I know that works at a reputable hotel. Hotels are the best place to acquire disgusting things. mao

Re: [MBZ] NE = New England

2014-01-28 Thread Mountain Man
Andrew wrote: Wha does the acronym MAO stand for anyway? Short for Maontin Man which is mis-spelling of Mountain Man which is a title given by DrFatty a decade ago. Mountain Man was not available at gmail so I improvised. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] NE = New England

2014-01-28 Thread Randy Bennell
On 28/01/2014 3:51 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Andrew wrote: Wha does the acronym MAO stand for anyway? Short for Maontin Man which is mis-spelling of Mountain Man which is a title given by DrFatty a decade ago. Mountain Man was not available at gmail so I improvised. mao

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-28 Thread clay
Another way to stabilize the excesses of government would be to make running for office a terminal proposition. If you run for office and win, then you will have two terms in which to play that game. At the end of your short career, you are given a low key send off. A bottle of your favored

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-28 Thread G Mann
Clay, I think you have Nailed it' ... hahahahahahahahah.. Thanks,, best and most stress relief I've had in political discussion in months.. It would completely cure the re-election problem wouldn't it.. elegant and simple... just hammer the bastards to death... how satisfying, considering

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens

2014-01-28 Thread G Mann
Last 10 elections I've voted in I wished most strongly for a choice at the ballot that said NONE OF THE ABOVE .. if none of the above got the most votes, they could never run for or hold public office again in their lifetimes.. Wouldn't that be good? On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Mountain

Re: [MBZ] NE = New England

2014-01-28 Thread Rich Thomas
He is the Chairman. Or the Charmin, I forget which. In any case, we are lukcy. --R On 1/28/14 5:00 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 28/01/2014 3:51 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Andrew wrote: Wha does the acronym MAO stand for anyway? Short for Maontin Man which is mis-spelling of Mountain Man which

[MBZ] (no subject)

2014-01-28 Thread Scott Ritchey
Pilots will always find ways to have fun flying. http://www.youtube.com/v/zok7LltWU0E?hl=fr_FR http://www.youtube.com/v/zok7LltWU0E?hl=fr_FRversion=3rel=0 version=3rel=0 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Literature?

2014-01-28 Thread clay
I really enjoy his whole body of work. Heinlein and Herbert would be really good for basing spiritual followings. Heinlein is much more self consistent in his universe. On Jan 28, 2014, at 4:45 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Starship Troopers is one of my favorites, just checked and it was

Re: [MBZ] And now for something completely different

2014-01-28 Thread Craig
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 14:01:32 -0500 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Not a Merzaydeez engine but still cool http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/01/nissan-3-cylinder-le-mans/ Interesting. I wonder if it will see any production automobile use. Either the guy shown holding

Re: [MBZ] And now for something completely different

2014-01-28 Thread Hendrik and Fay
That's what's referred to a whiz-bang engine, it goes whizz and then bang. Hendrik who goes for a whizz now and then On 29/01/14 07:22, Randy Bennell wrote: On 28/01/2014 1:01 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Not a Merzaydeez engine but still cool

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the sheets

2014-01-28 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Mighta even messed up the sheets with some em. Hendrik who is 40+ On 29/01/14 07:37, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Reminds me of that Aussie classic, Now you'll Think I'm Awful. Not to mention my all time favorite series - Barry McKenzie I spent 3.5 yrs. in Fiji 40 + years ago and unavoidably

Re: [MBZ] Literature?

2014-01-28 Thread Curt Raymond
I'd like that, I think my copy is possibly at my parent's house but finding it would be a whole different thing. -Curt Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 05:31:23 -0800 (PST) From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Literature?

Re: [MBZ] Literature?

2014-01-28 Thread Frederick Moir
Curt. Will do.   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 7:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Literature? I'd like that, I think my copy is possibly at my

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the pennies and cents

2014-01-28 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Was that round about the currency change over? The meter in pennies and fare in cents? Hendrik who is not old enough to remember that far back, well more than two days and I'm buggered On 29/01/14 07:41, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: For everyone's benefit, Australia has a no tipping mentality,

Re: [MBZ] NE = Mad New England

2014-01-28 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Mad And Opinionated Hendrik whose opinions are mad On 29/01/14 07:44, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Wha does the acronym MAO stand for anyway? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] (no subject) no bull

2014-01-28 Thread Hendrik and Fay
That's what happens when you drink red bull, you thing you have wings. Hendrik who rarely drinks these sort of things On 29/01/14 09:04, Scott Ritchey wrote: Pilots will always find ways to have fun flying. http://www.youtube.com/v/zok7LltWU0E?hl=fr_FR

Re: [MBZ] And now for something completely different

2014-01-28 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Looks kinda photo shopped but then 40 kilos is not a hell of a lot, back in the day you could get bags of cement in 20kg and 40kg size, then we all got weak and they stopped selling the 40's. Which annoyed me, as you spend all day opening bags with the little bastards. Hendrik who can still

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the oldcitizens

2014-01-28 Thread Scott Ritchey
This thread shows no sign of ending. So as not to fan the flames, I'll make just one final (for me) comment on the subject. When you find yourself in a hole, maybe it's time to stop digging. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2014-01-28 Thread OK Don
Very cool - thanks! On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Pilots will always find ways to have fun flying. http://www.youtube.com/v/zok7LltWU0E?hl=fr_FR http://www.youtube.com/v/zok7LltWU0E?hl=fr_FRversion=3rel=0 version=3rel=0

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the holes

2014-01-28 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Ahh come on now, we are solving the worlds problems, we have gone from 65 to 35 and I suppose the next logical step would be no health care, survival of the fittest. Which reminds me, aren't there some religious outfits that don't believe in medicine and such? I think the Jehovahs are like

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-28 Thread Fmiser
Andrew wrote: Who among you tips hotel room maids by leaving a fiver on the pillow as you check out? Mountain wrote: I don't do hotels. I guess that means you sleep on the ground and shower in truckstops? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

[MBZ] 123s, Was 85 people

2014-01-28 Thread Scott Ritchey
I still have a 126 SD but I think the 123 TD was my favorite car. Great style, a good size, very versatile, AND very easy to maintain. Mine had the ACC I, which wasn't great, but most of it was bullet-proof or easy to diagnose and fix. Unfortunately, nine (79 model) was prone to rust. A

Re: [MBZ] NE = New England

2014-01-28 Thread Mountain Man
--R wrote: In any case, we are lukcy. Totally playing on the banned... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] NE = Mad New England

2014-01-28 Thread Mountain Man
HF wrote: Mad And Opinionated I am gonna claim that - thanks. I can either be DrFatty's Mountain Man or Mad And Opinionated. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

Re: [MBZ] NE = Mad New England

2014-01-28 Thread Dwight Giles
And I thought all these years it was because you had a blue cotton workers cap with a red star. On Jan 28, 2014 8:37 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: HF wrote: Mad And Opinionated I am gonna claim that - thanks. I can either be DrFatty's Mountain Man or Mad And Opinionated.

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens

2014-01-28 Thread Mountain Man
Grant wrote: Wouldn't that be good? That ballot initiative has my yes vote. But it ain't gonna happen. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2014-01-28 Thread Mountain Man
Scott wrote: Pilots will always find ways to have fun flying. +1 At first, I wondered if the video was Darwin Awards. Thanks mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the holes

2014-01-28 Thread Mountain Man
HF wrote: ...I suppose the next logical step would be no health care... snip who believes in modern science Yes, we eliminated ACA. Modern science is as much religion as Jehovahs. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-28 Thread Mountain Man
Philip wrote: I guess that means you sleep on the ground and shower in truckstops? Drive until dark. Find a rural church at edge of town. Drive to back and sleep in W123 or on ground. Showers are over rated. Stay calm, no overload. mao ___

Re: [MBZ] NE = Mad New England

2014-01-28 Thread Mountain Man
Dwight wrote: And I thought all these years it was because you had a blue cotton workers cap with a red star. Thanks for the idea. ...gotta go search ebay now... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] NE = Mad New England

2014-01-28 Thread Dwight Giles
I used to have one after Nixon opened up trade with China. And we all thought that was a good thing in 1973. On Jan 28, 2014 8:52 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Dwight wrote: And I thought all these years it was because you had a blue cotton workers cap with a red star.

Re: [MBZ] MAO NE = Mad and opinionated New England

2014-01-28 Thread Hendrik and Fay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Army-Green-Mao-Zedong-China-Chairman-Communist-Party-Hat-Cap-60cm-Free-Shipping-/251414164323 or perhaps given the conditions http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Chinese-Communist-Army-Soldiers-Cotton-Hat-Winter-Cap-58-/181185554831?pt=AU_Militariahash=item2a2f80298f_uhb=1 Hendrik

Re: [MBZ] NE = Mad New England

2014-01-28 Thread Gary Hurst
it was a good thing in that a USA friendly nuclear power with a long border with russia and a huge military would be a thorn in the foot of the soviet union. china tips the balance of power to one side or the other and this remains true, in fact, it's even more truer today. china trades their

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the pennies and cents

2014-01-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Cents = pennies in US jargon, mate. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Was that round about the currency change over? The meter in pennies and fare in cents? Hendrik who is not old enough to remember that far back, well more than two days and I'm

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens

2014-01-28 Thread Curt Raymond
I've been espousing the idea for awhile. I have 2 steps though. If a plurality of people vote for none of the above we just run the election again but none of the previous candidates can run again since they obviously were unwanted. If 3/4 of people vote none of the above we run the election

Re: [MBZ] MAO NE = Mad and opinionated New England

2014-01-28 Thread G Mann
Hendrik finds Mao hat.. it has free shipping... yes.. I see a connection there.. Having a good chuckle over that ... way to go Hendrik.. :))) Grant... who is not the world king of free shipping like Hendrik.. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 123s, Was 85 people

2014-01-28 Thread G Mann
A resounding YES , for myself. If there were a new production 123, built to original standards and supported for the next 30 years by parts.. I would buy it in a New York Minute.. Imagine being able to buy a car that you know is completely proven to last 30+ years, give good service for the

Re: [MBZ] MAO NE = Mad and opinionated New England

2014-01-28 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Lets not go there again. Hendrik who sort of knows when to move on On 29/01/14 13:45, G Mann wrote: Hendrik finds Mao hat.. it has free shipping... yes.. I see a connection there.. Having a good chuckle over that ... way to go Hendrik.. :))) Grant... who is not the world king of free

Re: [MBZ] 123s, Was 85 people

2014-01-28 Thread Craig
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 20:22:51 -0700 G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: A resounding YES , for myself. If there were a new production 123, built to original standards and supported for the next 30 years by parts.. I would buy it in a New York Minute.. Imagine being able to buy a car that you

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens

2014-01-28 Thread Dieselhead
Last 10 elections I've voted in I wished most strongly for a choice at the ballot that said NONE OF THE ABOVE .. if none of the above got the most votes, they could never run for or hold public office again in their lifetimes.. Wouldn't that be good? Hear HEAR! Sign me up! Many times I write

Re: [MBZ] MAO NE = Mad and opinionated New England

2014-01-28 Thread G Mann
A Hendrik.. I just could not resist the chance to pull your chain a bit. I owe you at least one adult beverage of your choice. [kitchen pass is up to your missus, of course]. Grant... On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Lets not go there again.