Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

I wonder if you can install a drain cock in the bottom of the pot - and drain the water out from the bottom instead of trying to scoop dried oil off the top? That's how we drain water from aircraft fuel tanks . . . I didn't know that heating it would break the emulsion, but it does sound like the

Re: [MBZ] RI topless driver explains

I did similar with the MGA, though it wasn't much different than driving with the top up and the side curtains on :-) On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 9:13 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I've done that. But on purpose on the cold clear days. Colder the better. > (R107,

Re: [MBZ] Turbo hose

On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 04:02:42 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > 3/4" = .375 or around 9.5mm > 7mm = .275" 3/4" = 0.750" or 19.05 mm Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Turbo hose

My experience with hard hot starts came down to replacing the injection pump on my84 300D. Someone on the list told me to throw a bag of ice on the pump next time it wouldn’t start. I did just that and it started up within minutes. I never had a problem in the winter, only summer. Michael

Re: [MBZ] Today's fun

The improvements in tire technology are really quite amazing (or maybe I just buy better tires now?). In my youth, changing a flat tire was just a normal part of driving. Not every day, of course, but a few times a year. I have had a low tire occasionally not a real flat in decades. >

Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

No, wet ATF will dissolve cellulose fiber disk packs and cause serious rust and corrosion. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Turbo hose

3/4" = .375 or around 9.5mm 7mm = .275" -Curt On Friday, January 12, 2018, 10:56:41 PM EST, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote: Not to my thinking. The issue began after the shop adjusted the transmission.  Replaced some pots and hooked up hoses and replaced perished

Re: [MBZ] Turbo hose

Not to my thinking. The issue began after the shop adjusted the transmission. Replaced some pots and hooked up hoses and replaced perished bits. The issue never took place prior to that, and the guy at the shop commented on how it was NA. I think he got the trouble when he tried to move

Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

Okay, at this point I've got to stop and ask: Have none of you noticed that I'm dealing with an emulsion? The water is in the oil and by itself won't come out. At least five times I've mentioned this, the water WILL NOT SETTLE OUT OF THE ATF. I'm reasonably sure this is done on purpose. Again

Re: [MBZ] S class

This boy is a little slow. Maybe he needs a smack upside the head clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei 1982 300 SD - Allen retired models- 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green,

Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 03:22:20 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Boiling all the water out is a little like making maple syrup, its > going to take considerable time... -Curt In maple syrup, isn't the syrup heavier than water? In this case, the oil is lighter

Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

120 degrees Celsius is clearly OK, because that's the temperature of the water bath the typical MB runs the ATF through in the radiator heat-exchanger. Maybe look at the faces of some aftermarket analog auxiliary towing gauges, figure out where the red zone is? -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

I'm thinking the smoke point is pretty high but I don't want to damage the oil or any of the additives. Again supposedly at 100C the emulsion breaks and the water will settle out which it won't do otherwise... Boiling all the water out is a little like making maple syrup, its going to take

Re: [MBZ] Turbo hose

I think on my '87 wagon, OM603, it's just standard fuel hose. FLAPS should have something that fits. I don't see how this would affect hot starts. My suspicion is that the cause of a hot start problem is a worn out injection pump. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On January

Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

Turkey fryer is an excellent example of "gettin' the water out". Keep the oil under 350 degrees Fahrenheit and the oil won't burn and impart a bad flavor to the turkey. Perhaps ATF has a different smoke point? :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] RI topless driver explains

I've done that. But on purpose on the cold clear days. Colder the better. (R107, no expensive repairs needed.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

It doesn't, we've already tried... On Friday, January 12, 2018, 9:37:54 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > On January 12, 2018 at 6:10 PM G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > You might get lucky if you pump down the system, into a

Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

Kinda what I don't want to happen. My small scale experiment was half an ounce of oil in a tuna can, as it got hot it'd spit and pop, that was 220F (my IR thermometer was in F) and was mostly a consequence of not being able to turn down the camp stove enough for the job, this was using my

Re: [MBZ] S class

I sent the article to #1 boy, as his W140 leads the pack clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei 1982 300 SD - Allen retired models- 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and

Re: [MBZ] S class

Clay will get a kick out of this review: 999. W220 (1999-2006) Yes, I've put the W220 S-Class in 999th place. Few vehicles have tarnished a dynasty quite like the W220 S-Class, which was sold throughout the early 2000s. Featuring weird, melted "Is it a Hyundai?" styling and embarrassing

Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

> On January 12, 2018 at 6:10 PM G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > You might get lucky if you pump down the system, into a plastic barrel, so > you can see through the plastic [shop light on one side]. Let it "settle" > for a few days, then let it freeze. The water will

Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

> On January 12, 2018 at 6:08 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > I've seen some people who claim getting the oil to 100C is enough to get the > water to settle out. We're going to give it a try anyway. I bet 120°C would turn the water to gas.

[MBZ] S class

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Re: [MBZ] RI topless driver explains

Invite him to the Q. Dan can show him how to fix R129 top. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Jan 12, 2018 6:02 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" wrote: Need to get him added to our Okie Benz list... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On January 12, 2018 4:03:11 PM

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Dashing Through the Snow...

Well, I didn't read the final story, so yes. "Neighbors said they’ve seen him driving with the top down for several months, despite the increasingly cold weather. The reason? Pratt said it’s simple math. He got an estimate to repair the broken roof from a local Mercedes deal: $5,000. That’s more

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Dashing Through the Snow...

Nope - "As of now, we don’t know much about the driver of the SL or if the convertible top was broken or not. We do know that they are now a legend and seem to have little care for atmospheric conditions. I say drive on, nameless Mercedes SL owner, the world needs you." Probably a member of the

Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

Oil isn't compressable either, what does that have to do with it? Go back and read the previous posts ATF won't come out of emulsion on it's own. We left it a week with no change.The biggest problem we're having is that the water freezes somewhere in the single digits, apparently the ATF does a

Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

Not really, water in not compressible, so it will blow seals and bend shafts in pump. Also, it will freeze and stop up the pickup in bottom of reservoir. You might get lucky if you pump down the system, into a plastic barrel, so you can see through the plastic [shop light on one side]. Let it

Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

The term is emulsion and if you go back to my original post I complained about it. Apparently heat breaks the emulsion, I've seen some people who claim getting the oil to 100C is enough to get the water to settle out. We're going to give it a try anyway. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

Centrifuge will do it. if the oil/water is not emulsified it will do it better. Might have to let it set and settle for a while. Water is heavy, oil is light, so it will separate with gravity of centrifuge and managed from the machine. Someone near you will have one that could process the 55

Re: [MBZ] RI topless driver explains

Need to get him added to our Okie Benz list... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On January 12, 2018 4:03:11 PM EST, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: >http://turnto10.com/news/local/convertible-driver-speaks-to-nbc-10-after-snowy-ride > > > > >Dwight Giles

Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

On 12/01/2018 4:59 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: ATF has a very high detergent activity, and water will not separate well, if at all. ___ So, is it safe for them to continue using it without changing the fluid? RB

Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

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Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

I wonder if you drain off a gallon or more and let it sit for a while, if the oil and the water will separate? If it was gasoline, the water would go to the bottom. In this case, I wonder if the oil would be on the bottom and the water on the top so you could siphon it off. However, I think

[MBZ] Turbo hose

Before I hack the rubber bits and can not drive the car for a while. Any insight into the ID of the waste gate hose? Mine is perished and I suspect it is the cause of hot start trouble. Something is making the turbo not spool up on a warm engine. It takes a few attempts to get proper fuel

Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

I have one of those too, I'd thought of it and then forgotten. Thanks for the reminder. -Curt On Friday, January 12, 2018, 4:12:35 PM EST, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > Curt wrote: > Anybody got a good way to get water out of ATF? I have a funnel with a

Re: [MBZ] Today's fun

LOL, I know, 3 1/4 years... Its only the third or fourth tire I've ever changed... -Curt On Friday, January 12, 2018, 4:12:34 PM EST, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > Curt wrote: > The jack and tools are supposed to be under the front seat. The > jack was there,

Re: [MBZ] Today's fun

On 12/01/2018 3:11 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: Curt wrote: The jack and tools are supposed to be under the front seat. The jack was there, nothing else was. I need to call some junkyards. So how long have you been driving this car - without basic service tools?7

Re: [MBZ] Today's fun

> Curt wrote: > The jack and tools are supposed to be under the front seat. The > jack was there, nothing else was. I need to call some junkyards. So how long have you been driving this car - without basic service tools?7 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

> Curt wrote: > Anybody got a good way to get water out of ATF? I have a funnel with a filter that lets gasoline through, but not water. I don't know if it will work with transmission fluid. I don't know if I'll have time to try that today... ___

[MBZ] RI topless driver explains

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Re: [MBZ] The Finny for Poos is still available

I bought mine used-the engine blew at 90K so had a rebuilt Jasper put in. I got anther 60K out of it before I sold it. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 7:02 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yep, my parents bought it and passed it to me. My dad

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Dashing Through the Snow...

That's even funnier. On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > More likely JD or similar, or possibly beer! But the text said he was > taking it in to get the top repaired. > > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >>

Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

We've got a member who manages an autoparts store and gets us a rate. -Curt On Friday, January 12, 2018, 3:30:57 PM EST, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 19:46:59 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > What we

Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 19:46:59 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > What we really need is 100 gallons of ATF, route the output of the > return to an empty container and keep pumping new clean fluid in until > all the contaminated fluid runs out, that'd be about 4x

Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

ATF has detergents to bind the water. THat is why it is opaque to translucent, not clear. Dan--- via Mercedes January 12, 2018 at 1:36 PM I’m wondering if there is such thing as a water separator, much like there are for diesel fuel systems. If so, seems like

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Dashing Through the Snow...

More likely JD or similar, or possibly beer! But the text said he was taking it in to get the top repaired. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes January 12, 2018 at 1:21 PM Maybe he had to make a run to the store for some TP. ___

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Dashing Through the Snow...

Well, he's still an idiot. On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > More like feminine product needs. No other reason to go out like that. > > --FT > > > On 1/12/18 2:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > >> Maybe he had to make a

Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

My research suggests that there are all sorts of water removing tools. They fall into 4 basic categories: 1. Heaters2. Centrufugal3. Vacuum4. Air displacement All of them require big equipment. You need to remember the snowmobile club runs on basically zero budget. I can budget maybe $100 for

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Dashing Through the Snow...

More like feminine product needs.  No other reason to go out like that. --FT On 1/12/18 2:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Maybe he had to make a run to the store for some TP. On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 1:16 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: As Forest Gump

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Dashing Through the Snow... on the same page

It gave me a woodiewoody -FT On 1/12/18 2:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I agree - looks nice. On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 1:22 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: https://jalopnik.com/hit-the-beach-with-this-custom-craigsli st-surf-wagon-ab-1821843191

Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

I’m wondering if there is such thing as a water separator, much like there are for diesel fuel systems. If so, seems like it would be an ideal application for one... -D > On Jan 12, 2018, at 2:33 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes > wrote: > > I assume you do not have

Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

I assume you do not have access or desire to acquaint yourself with a shop that does an ATF flush. Maybe those things do bad for engine, but it would remove all the fluid and put good stuff back in, in one fell swoop clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei 1982 300 SD -

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Dashing Through the Snow... on the same page

I agree - looks nice. On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 1:22 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://jalopnik.com/hit-the-beach-with-this-custom-craigsli > st-surf-wagon-ab-1821843191 > > They really criticize this but it does not look all that bad in my > opinion. I don't

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Dashing Through the Snow...

Maybe he had to make a run to the store for some TP. On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 1:16 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > As Forest Gump said "Stupid is as stupid does." > > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Dashing Through the Snow... on the same page

https://jalopnik.com/hit-the-beach-with-this-custom-craigslist-surf-wagon-ab-1821843191 They really criticize this but it does not look all that bad in my opinion. I don't think I like the horn ring mounted over the airbag but the job mounting the fenders and hood looks like it was done

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Dashing Through the Snow...

As Forest Gump said "Stupid is as stupid does." On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Sent to me by #1 Daughter: > >> https://jalopnik.com/nameless-hero-braves-the-blizzard-in-a- >> drop-top-mercede-1821841886 >> > >

[MBZ] Fwd: Dashing Through the Snow...

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Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

Yup, did that. Looks like the best bet is to heat it and see if we can recover some of the fluid. With luck after a few changes we can reduce the amount of water in there for now, then in the summer we'll go through the process of replacing all of it... -Curt On Friday, January 12,

Re: [MBZ] Water in ATF?

On 11/01/2018 8:47 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Anybody ever get water in ATF before? The Pisten Bully main hydraulics has apparently got a substantial amount of water in it. The last two times we went out it required 1/2 hour of run time before they would work at all. This includes

Re: [MBZ] What parts should I get off this car?

I don’t need any, I was just making the suggestion as I know they’re hard to come by, and often replaced with aftermarket arms that are typically black in color. -D > On Jan 11, 2018, at 10:09 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes > wrote: > > Oh, > > I have the arms, but not