Re: [MBZ] O.T. Paragon Tires

On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 22:38:07 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes" wrote: > Or a website like this that has a wheel/tire size calculator: > > > Alloy Wheel & Tyre Fitment Calculator. Offset, Tyre Stretch and Speedo > Error >

Re: [MBZ] 2005 ML 350 - 169k miles - $3,900

2006 i think --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jan 12, 2024, at 10:36 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > When did they switch the ML350 to the M272 engine? > > Bad photos but might be OK if the engine isn't bad. > >

Re: [MBZ] Way OT UFO UAP

The truth is out there. On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, at 20:50, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > I’ve kinda gone down a rathole recently watching utubers regarding UFOs > and UAPs. There seems to be a lot of recent video evidence and very > knowledgeable and experienced people speaking out about

[MBZ] 2005 ML 350 - 169k miles - $3,900

When did they switch the ML350 to the M272 engine? Bad photos but might be OK if the engine isn't bad. https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/d/bloomingdale-2005-ml-350mercedes-benz/7706924111.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Way OT UFO UAP

I'm open. Send us a link to one of the more convincing youtube videos. On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 8:51 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I’ve kinda gone down a rathole recently watching utubers regarding UFOs > and UAPs. There seems to be a lot of recent video

[MBZ] Way OT UFO UAP

I’ve kinda gone down a rathole recently watching utubers regarding UFOs and UAPs. There seems to be a lot of recent video evidence and very knowledgeable and experienced people speaking out about stuff. I’m maintaining some reasonable skepticism but I’m getting somewhat convinced there is a lot

Re: [MBZ] KLEB CAR!!!!

I have ridden in a few Pintos starting in the early 1980’s. The first one was my sister’s then boyfriend’s 1972 runabout with a manual transmission. It was a good first car for him. Not long afterward, my dad got the Pinto bug and found a 1974 Pinto Wagon with no engine. The plan was to put a

Re: [MBZ] KLEB CAR!!!!

In fact, I’d be hard pressed to pick one I wouldn’t mind having a pristine sample of. AZBob Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 12, 2024, at 5:07 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > Careful, there. > > One thing your Dad has going for him - he’s consistent! > > My first car, despite

Re: [MBZ] KLEB CAR!!!!

Careful, there. One thing your Dad has going for him - he’s consistent! My first car, despite having driven a bunch of VW Beetles, was a 1970 light blue Ford Maverick two-door. Very spartan, as they were, with a heater, bench seat (nice!!), and an AM radio. Three on the tree, venerable 170 CI

Re: [MBZ] KLEB CAR!!!!

Hideous. Everything that was wrong with American cars during the malaise era. -Curt On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 03:54:03 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 12/01/2024 2:34 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > There is really nothing at all redeeming about a Fairmont in

Re: [MBZ] O.T. Paragon Tires

This is sort of funny, as the MLs have wheels/tires that look almost as comical as the old 14” bundts on the W126 sedans did, too. My ML550 is the same - even with the optional 19” wheels and tires they still look lost in the wheel wells. Sort of like the deal with the monoblocks I bought in

Re: [MBZ] KLEB CAR!!!!

My dad and my uncle were cursing how expensive cars are today and how things were better "back in the day." I pointed out that any cheap crap car you buy today will last 10 years and 200,000 miles with just basic maintenance while "Those good cars" were junk at 5-7 years. For example, my

Re: [MBZ] O.T. Paragon Tires

Or a website like this that has a wheel/tire size calculator: Alloy Wheel & Tyre Fitment Calculator. Offset, Tyre Stretch and Speedo Error willtheyfit.com [favicon-16x16.png]

Re: [MBZ] O.T. Paragon Tires

On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 12:40:12 -0500 Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > I thought the higher aspect ratio was "taller"? Higher aspect ratio is taller. > > 245/65R17 is what he put on. 245 mm width 245 * 0.65 = 159.25 mm height 17 * 25.4 + 2(159.25) = 750.3 mm overall diameter (29.54") >

Re: [MBZ] KLEB CAR!!!!

Lee Iacocca’s “K-car.” Stole the font for the trunk badging right out from under MB. -D > On Jan 12, 2024, at 4:16 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > At some point Chrysler (I think) copied the Mercedes styling almost exactly, > down to the font of the trunk badge model number and

Re: [MBZ] more on sunroofs

In my haste to go over the ML550 when I considered it for purchase, I forgot to check the sunroof operation. After purchasing it and going over things in general, I discovered that it didn’t work. Not a big deal to me as I never use a sunroof when I have one. I like the W163s because they have

Re: [MBZ] KLEB CAR!!!!

On 12/01/2024 3:16 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: At some point Chrysler (I think) copied the Mercedes styling almost exactly, down to the font of the trunk badge model number and placing their pentagram where the star would be. I always wondered how they got away with it. Lexus went

Re: [MBZ] KLEB CAR!!!!

I still have my one and only Mercedes and you folks have heard all about it more than once. Randy On 12/01/2024 3:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: It might be amusing if each of us wrote a brief essay about their FIRST Mercedes, either to purchase or as a family car.

Re: [MBZ] KLEB CAR!!!!

It might be amusing if each of us wrote a brief essay about their FIRST Mercedes, either to purchase or as a family car. On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 4:17 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > At some point Chrysler (I think) copied the Mercedes styling almost > exactly, down

Re: [MBZ] KLEB CAR!!!!

At some point Chrysler (I think) copied the Mercedes styling almost exactly, down to the font of the trunk badge model number and placing their pentagram where the star would be. I always wondered how they got away with it. On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, at 15:55, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

Re: [MBZ] KLEB CAR!!!!

On 12/01/2024 2:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: My buddy in college had a Granada. Looks like a Mercedes! It got us around as it had room for 6. I think at some point it just imploded. --FT I had a 1977 Mercury Monarch 2 dr. It looked nice - White with a white half vinyl top

Re: [MBZ] KLEB CAR!!!!

My buddy in college had a Granada. Looks like a Mercedes! It got us around as it had room for 6. I think at some point it just imploded. --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jan 12, 2024, at 3:35 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > There is really nothing at all redeeming about a Fairmont in

Re: [MBZ] KLEB CAR!!!!

On 12/01/2024 2:34 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: There is really nothing at all redeeming about a Fairmont in any way, other than it's better than walking. Now, come on - it wasn't that bad. It was actually quite stylish compared to the 4 door and it had a decent cloth interior with

Re: [MBZ] KLEB CAR!!!!

There is really nothing at all redeeming about a Fairmont in any way, other than it's better than walking. On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, at 15:19, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > Big brother’s Ford Fairmont was a two-door model as well. I thought it > was butt ugly. I don’t recall much about it,

Re: [MBZ] KLEB CAR!!!!

Big brother’s Ford Fairmont was a two-door model as well. I thought it was butt ugly. I don’t recall much about it, as I don’t even think he was still living at home by that point. I rarely saw him or the car at the time. -D > On Jan 12, 2024, at 2:48 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote:

Re: [MBZ] KLEB CAR!!!!

My co-worker at the USGS bought a new 1977 Ford Maverick, to go with his 1976 TR7. Both cars were absolute POSes (POSs?). Whereas my 1976 Chevette - purchased at full list price of $3660 - lasted with no real issues for 7 years. Sold it to the trash guys for $350 and we purchased our first

Re: [MBZ] KLEB CAR!!!!

My father had the Mercury version - A Bobcat. Bright red, black interior - automatic which meant it was pretty weak. I think it was still around when my father died. I don't know what happened to it. Mother must have sold it or given it away to clear the yard. It was not a wonderful car but my

Re: [MBZ] No title but it’s not stolen ,- I got scammed on this car and I’m just done dealing with it. 2008 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 550 Sedan 4D,$1,500

Could be something as simple as a battery, starter, relay, etc. On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 12:46 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1336671113705883 > > -- > --FT > ___ >

Re: [MBZ] Green/green/duct tape -- 1974 Mercedes-Benz 450sel, $7, 500

Rare color and very pretty, but the unresolved issues will be pricey and time consuming to correct. Exhaust and seats will cost at least $4k. Offer $4500. On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 12:44 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > This could look really luscious > >

Re: [MBZ] W163 Sunroof Wind Deflector Arms

Same issue with my '85 300SD. One side was available but the other had to come from the Vaterland. Tricky business. On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 12:42 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Is this something amenable to Shoe-Goo? > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, at 12:28, Bob

Re: [MBZ] Pair of SDLs 1986 Mercedes-Benz 300sdl,$500

Holy cow. That cream beige (champignon) leather interior is too good to waste. I could use a set of those floor mats. I wonder what's missing? On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 12:40 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > No title No questions, come get it > >

Re: [MBZ] KLEB CAR!!!!

Hi everyone, my name is Dan and I’m a former Pinto owner. < Hi, Dan! > Mom got a brand-new 1971-1/2 Pinto full window hatchback, bright orange with the great 2.0l 4 cylinder engine, four-speed stick, from the local Ford dealer. She drove it uneventfully until about 1977 or so. Then it went to

Re: [MBZ] KLEB CAR!!!!

When my dad was at Harvard he got so sick of driving in Boston that one day he just parked on some side street and walked away. He never heard anything more about it and had no idea what happened to the car. On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, at 13:04, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > When I was at

Re: [MBZ] KLEB CAR!!!!

When I was at MIT in late 70s there was a guy in my program from NYC who had this completely rusted out yellow pinto that was wheezing and dying and basically just falling apart. He tried to sell it for $100 and had no takers. He parked it on the street in a bad ‘hood close by, window down key

Re: [MBZ] OT Torpedo Tender

Not far but it’s on the other side of the creek in the Wadmalaw marsh --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jan 12, 2024, at 12:40 AM, Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 00:16:52 -0500 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > >> So some shady dude parked this thing in the creek last

[MBZ] No title but it’s not stolen ,- I got scammed on this car and I’m just done dealing with it. 2008 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 550 Sedan 4D,$1,500

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[MBZ] Green/green/duct tape -- 1974 Mercedes-Benz 450sel,$7,500

This could look really luscious https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/239220595876581 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] more on sunroofs

Yes glass adds another level of potential issues. I don't even like the solid metal ones. On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, at 12:38, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: > My elder son has a late model Toyota Rav4. Not certain of year but > essentially new. They bought it new, had to wait for one to come in

Re: [MBZ] W163 Sunroof Wind Deflector Arms

Is this something amenable to Shoe-Goo? On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, at 12:28, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: > Might be tough to find the needed plastic clips in a boneyard in AZ. > > AZBob > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 12, 2024, at 10:08 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >>> >>

Re: [MBZ] O.T. Paragon Tires

I thought the higher aspect ratio was "taller"? So a 65R17 would be taller (larger external diameter) than a 60 or 55R17. This means your speedo/odo readings will be slightly low, also. And 245 is a narrower tire than the others. That will theoretically give you better snow performance by

[MBZ] Pair of SDLs 1986 Mercedes-Benz 300sdl,$500

No title No questions, come get it https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1076939923759537 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/375993545146187 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

[MBZ] more on sunroofs

My elder son has a late model Toyota Rav4. Not certain of year but essentially new. They bought it new, had to wait for one to come in to the dealer and have had it maybe a year or a bit more. Back in maybe October, the glass in the sunroof broke.  They initially thought it might be

Re: [MBZ] W163 Sunroof Wind Deflector Arms

On 12/01/2024 11:28 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: Might be tough to find the needed plastic clips in a boneyard in AZ. AZBob Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2024, at 10:08 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: Used parts from a salvage yard? Randy But there are folks on this

Re: [MBZ] W163 Sunroof Wind Deflector Arms

Might be tough to find the needed plastic clips in a boneyard in AZ. AZBob Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 12, 2024, at 10:08 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > >> > Used parts from a salvage yard? > > Randy > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com >

Re: [MBZ] O.T. Paragon Tires

245/65R17 is what he put on. Everything I read I read says either 255/60R17 or 275/55R17. This means small diameter, slighter wider, yes? AZBob Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 12, 2024, at 10:08 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Sounds like they are pretty good. > > > Sent from

Re: [MBZ] OT Torpedo Tender

On 11/01/2024 11:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: So some shady dude parked this thing in the creek last year just down the road (creek?) close to my buddy’s house. Unclear how that works but there you go. I don’t think it has been operated at all, just tied up. I’m not quite sure

Re: [MBZ] 2021 AMG GT 63 - 26k miles - $85,000

Could be but those things have depreciated fast.  It looks like a fodo too so that reduces the value.  For the year I would expect it to be quite a bit more,  2016-2017 coupés (actual tudors) are going high 60s to 70s, some pushing 80, but depending on any issues this might not be unrealistic. 

Re: [MBZ] W163 Sunroof Wind Deflector Arms

On 12/01/2024 7:33 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: It appears the air deflector and its piece parts are NLA. I’ve read most people just delete the whole shooting match. Would the air flow/sound be greatly increased with the delete? But I guess it’s a moot point if parts can’t be had. AZBob

Re: [MBZ] O.T. Paragon Tires

Sounds like they are pretty good. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 12, 2024, at 11:00 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > Has anyone had any experience with Paragon tires? The ML350’s PO put a fresh > set on before I bought it. > Paragon looks like it’s a made in ‘Merica company with

Re: [MBZ] O.T. Paragon Tires

I've never heard of them. But I would not call myself a student of tire manufacturers, by any means. If they are quiet and do well in the wet and snow, that's better than most of the tires my cars have had. On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, at 11:59, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: > Has anyone had any

[MBZ] O.T. Paragon Tires

Has anyone had any experience with Paragon tires? The ML350’s PO put a fresh set on before I bought it. Paragon looks like it’s a made in ‘Merica company with very decent reviews. The tires certainly rode well, have almost zero road noise, and did well in the rain and snow I drove through.

Re: [MBZ] "Very little rust overall"

Me too. It's DB 624 "Gelb" (yellow), often mistaken for "Helios Gelb" (sun yellow), which was not offered on 1975 models. https://www.paintscratch.com/cgi-bin/select-color.cgi On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 9:55 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I love the color > >

Re: [MBZ] KLEB CAR!!!!

I-talian tuneup. :) Friend of mine had a Pinto with, I kid you not, Firestone 500 tires. I flat out turned down ride offers... -MMM- On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 9:57 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > A friend of a friend had a Pinto back in the day. The story goes that

[MBZ] 2021 AMG GT 63 - 26k miles - $85,000

Probably a scam, ad is low-effort and similar cars list at about 1.5x that price. https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/chicago-2021-mercedes-benz/7706662406.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] W163 Sunroof Wind Deflector Arms

Sunroofs are best kept shut and left alone. They will probably leak eventually regardless. I hate everything about them. I used mine a couple times in the early 1990s which was the first time I had a car with one, then the novelty wore off and I've never opened one since. On Fri, Jan 12,

Re: [MBZ] KLEB CAR!!!!

A friend of a friend had a Pinto back in the day. The story goes that it was the most gutless, slowest piece of trash he had ever driven. So the day comes to replace it, the dealer won't take the Pinto on trade so he decides to junk it. On the ride to the junkyard he decides, since its being

[MBZ] Tornado rolls through Bamberg Jan 6

A little town maybe 50mi from here —FT Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Floyd Car!

Extra 1 in price —FT Sent from my iPad > On Jan 12, 2024, at 9:58 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > Better get down here with a conductor plate and get this thing sorted before > the balance shafts blow out! > >

[MBZ] Floyd Car!

Better get down here with a conductor plate and get this thing sorted before the balance shafts blow out! [01717_lcbuBUzCgoY_0kH0qQ_600x450.jpg] 2006 mercedes clk350 for sale by owner - Orlando, FL -

Re: [MBZ] W163 Sunroof Wind Deflector Arms

It appears the air deflector and its piece parts are NLA. I’ve read most people just delete the whole shooting match. Would the air flow/sound be greatly increased with the delete? But I guess it’s a moot point if parts can’t be had. AZBob Sent from my iPad > On Jan 10, 2024, at 8:13 PM,