Nobody has yet attacked the premise of needing a pan gasket. I will
heartily attack that premise. It MAY need a new front crank
seal. It probably is seeping/weeping at the rear main rope
seal. They do that. it is normal. IF in fact the pan has not been
removed since the car was built, the
I think the manual shows the engine being supported by a beam with
legs resting on the frame while the subframe is dropped. I was able to
R&R the oil pan on the SDL by unbolting the engine mounts, lifting the
engine to the max with the cherrypicker (it would only fall as far as
the mounts). Don't k
rhead.
>
> Barry
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Probably easier to drop the subframe, 4 bolts and its out
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Probably easier to drop the subframe, 4 bolts and its out
Robert Rentfro wrote:
> The Klebster told me:
>
> "I'm not sure how much it would cost, but the engine would either have to
> be pulled or the subframe dropped, either or, to replace the gasket."
>
> Which is easier? Can a normal guy
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>> I'm not even sure which CIS system was on the 1985 380, but the
>
> It's one of the CIS-E systems. Definitely has an O2 sensor.
>
>> simplest t
The Klebster told me:
"I'm not sure how much it would cost, but the engine would either have to
be pulled or the subframe dropped, either or, to replace the gasket."
Which is easier? Can a normal guy (me) do the subframe removal?
Would it be worth it to try an O2 sensor first? Is that easy t
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> My mother's had an electronic valve that had gone bad causing it to run
> improperly. I believe the bill at the Mercedes dealer in CT was
> approximately $600.00 An $1,800 oil pan gasket
Im not sure how much it would cost, but the engine would either have to
be pulled or the subframe dropped, either or, to replace the gasket. As
for the injection, just needs proper diagnosis and service, could be any
number of things.
Robert Rentfro wrote:
> The wife has a work bud who just wa
Jim Cathey wrote:
> The warmup regulator is often a troublesome unit.
Yep, the usual failure mode is that it sticks shut and runs
the control pressure all the way up to system pressure.
IIRC, that would make it run lean, not rich, but it's
been a while since I did much CIS work (like 1989 or so),
> And what, historically, causes those to run rich?
The warmup regulator is often a troublesome unit.
Fortunately you can test it if you have the right
fuel pressure gauge test rig. (There's a spec for
what the CIS control pressure should be from cold
start to warm running.) The cold-start injec
> I'm not even sure which CIS system was on the 1985 380, but the
It's one of the CIS-E systems. Definitely has an O2 sensor.
> simplest thing would be an O2 sensor. At least the bozos who
> made the estimate admit they can't fix it, so they just want
> to replace everything. I guess that's bett
> Also, are these the ones with the single chain/double chain issue?
Nope, those were corrected in '84. (As have many of the
earlier ones, one at a time.)
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> Also, are these the ones with the single chain/double chain issue?
I think it was fixed by 1985.
What's reasonable labor for the oil pan? 5 hours, 6 hours?
We need to get Marshall's fiance on the list, she could look up
the labor time in one of his books.
I'm not even
Also, are these the ones with the single chain/double chain issue?
Bob R
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> The wife has a work bud who just was willed an '85 380SL 103K miles. The
> bud
> told h
The wife has a work bud who just was willed an '85 380SL 103K miles. The bud
told her that it was running rough so she took it to our local rip-off loser
shop. Those shysters told her she needed an oil pan gasket ($1800 quote)
and, since it is running rich she needed a new fuel injection system ($2
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