Re: [MBZ] 123 300D Engine/Trans into a 116 300SD

2015-09-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
To do this as a complete drivetrain swap would certainly be the easiest and most painless way to go about it. You do a test fit to check on the major items like mounting points and for clearances, get those sorted, then in the whole thing goes. Once it's all in place and bolted up, you start

Re: [MBZ] 123 300D Engine/Trans into a 116 300SD

2015-09-29 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Check the drive shaft lengths - - - On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > To do this as a complete drivetrain swap would certainly be the easiest > and most painless way to go about it. > > You do a test fit to check on the major items like

Re: [MBZ] 123 300D Engine/Trans into a 116 300SD

2015-09-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Roger, Did the engine in your W116 die? I'm not sure about mounting and such, but the vacuum and electrical issues would have to be minor at best. Other than the alternator, there's nothing electrical on the M617 that I can recall. Vacuum will be much the same as far as the brake booster and

Re: [MBZ] 123 300D Engine/Trans into a 116 300SD

2015-09-28 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Are the gear ratios the same (between the two transmissions? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

[MBZ] 123 300D Engine/Trans into a 116 300SD

2015-09-28 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes
Has anyone tried this kind of swap? Can it be done? They have different vac systems for the trans, etc., but if you just come off the vac pump to the normal set up, could it work? Not sure if there are any different electrical harnesses that would be a problem, etc. Thanks for any thoughts on

[MBZ] 123 300D Engine/Trans into a 116 300SD

2015-09-28 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes
Guys, The engines in both cars are fine. The tranny in the 116 is flacky. The tranny in the 123 is a rebuilt with less than 100K on it. Since a new/rebuilt tranny for the 116 would be more than the 123 is probably worth, I thought it might be worth considering having my Indy use the 123 as a

Re: [MBZ] 123 300D Engine/Trans into a 116 300SD

2015-09-28 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
If the 116 has the big filter opening from above at the back of the engine (vs the 115 engine with the oil filter near the front, opening down) it will work. Everything else just bolts to the block or head. Roger, Did the engine in your W116 die? I'm not sure about mounting and such, but

Re: [MBZ] 123 300D Engine/Trans into a 116 300SD

2015-09-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Not sure about vacuum to the transmission modulator, or if the W116 even had it, or only the cable/rod for getting throttle position input. Doesn't the 123 use a bowden cable and the 116 a rod? Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] 123 300D Engine/Trans into a 116 300SD

2015-09-28 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Not sure about vacuum to the transmission modulator, or if the W116 even had it, or only the cable/rod for getting throttle position input. Doesn't the 123 use a bowden cable and the 116 a rod? Mitch. All that can be unbolted from one engine and put on the

Re: [MBZ] 123 300D Engine/Trans into a 116 300SD

2015-09-28 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Guys, The engines in both cars are fine. The tranny in the 116 is flacky. The tranny in the 123 is a rebuilt with less than 100K on it. Since a new/rebuilt tranny for the 116 would be more than the 123 is probably worth, I thought it might be worth considering having my Indy use the 123 as a