This exact thing happened to me back in 2005. Overheated on the nj turnpike
with my sailboat on the roof. Pulled over and v low coolant! No visible
leaks. Did it at long intervals until monovalve was replaced. Head seemed
to survive but one could easily have cooked it on the freeway listening to
ra
This is precisely what was going on with the three Chinese monovalves.
Sometimes they would work ok, other times no heat or or full heat with no rhyme
or reason. Once the coolant gets on the wrong side of the diaphragm under
pressure, it will not work correctly.
> On Dec 25, 2014, at 10:48 PM
Can any conclusions be reached yet?
disconnect the monovalve, and went for a...drive
The air started blowing TOASTY WARM...at 50 mph the dash air
lost its heat and cooled to ambient
Only a bad monovalve can do this.
I swapped out the ACC push button module with a good used...
reconnected th
People and list members,
I followed the advice to disconnect the monovalve, and went for an 8 mile
RT drive on local roads to the Safeway (open on Xmas). The air started
blowing TOASTY WARM as I idled but not scorchingly hot. The air stayed
warm but on the way back, I picked up speed when headin
Yassir! Here is some hot air blowin your way.
This conversation has wandered way off topic. Behave!
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On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Craig via Mercedes
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> On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 10:41:30 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I hav
On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 10:41:30 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes
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> On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I have friends who say real airplanes have NO engines!
>
> They are either jumping off of cliffs, or relying on something with an
> en
They are either jumping off of cliffs, or relying on something with an
engine to get them in the air . . .
On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> I have friends who say real airplanes have NO engines!
>
> --R
>
>
> On 12/24/14 11:05 PM, Jon Agn
I have friends who say real airplanes have NO engines!
--R
On 12/24/14 11:05 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes wrote:
REAL airplanes have at least 4 engines.
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Philip sez:
Real email is plaintext. :)
Then Shirley Mclain's brother Curly sez:
Neanderthal!
Luddite.
Rick
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>>Philip sez:
>>Real email is plaintext. :)
Then Shirley Mclain's brother Curly sez:
>Neanderthal!
Luddite.
Rick
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G: How many engines did Wiltons have? Now that's a "real" airplane.
On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 23:05:26 -0500
Jon Agne via Mercedes wrote:
> REAL airplanes have at least 4 engines.
>
>
> > On Dec 24, 2014, at 8:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
> > wrote:
> >
> > Real airplanes have at least 2
Anything with more than one is "Too many small parts flying in close
formation".
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 10:08 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
> Well, I thought it has 8! ;<)
>
> Wilton
>
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Well, I thought it has 8! ;<)
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: "Jon Agne via Mercedes"
To: "Kaleb C. Striplin" ; "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how col
REAL airplanes have at least 4 engines.
> On Dec 24, 2014, at 8:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Real airplanes have at least 2 engines
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 7:33 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
>> wrote:
>>
>> Real radios glow in the dark, and real ai
Real airplanes have at least 2 engines
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> On Dec 24, 2014, at 7:33 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Real radios glow in the dark, and real airplanes have tail wheels and round
> engines. :-)
>
>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 7:31 PM, OK Don wrote:
>>
>> Real email is plai
Real radios glow in the dark, and real airplanes have tail wheels and round
engines. :-)
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 7:31 PM, OK Don wrote:
> Real email is plaintext. :)
>
>
> Old email is plain text ;-)
>
>
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On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 1:58 PM, fmiser via Mercedes
wrote:
> > Curt wrote:
> >
> > I'm also curious why my text comes back
> > tiny in your replies but nobody elses...
>
> Real email is plaintext. :)
Old email is plain text ;-)
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> Curt wrote:
>
> I'm also curious why my text comes back
> tiny in your replies but nobody elses...
Real email is plaintext. :)
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ioned, though not likely, was a bad aux.
>>>> water pump.
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Curt Raymond
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Assuming you notice the rise in temp and have someplace safe to stop...
>>>>>
>>>>> -Curt
>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Assuming you notice the rise in temp and have someplace safe to stop...
>>>>
>>>> -Curt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>&g
t 4:34 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>>>
>>> Assuming you notice the rise in temp and have someplace safe to stop...
>>>
>>> -Curt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From:* Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
rt Raymond
Cc: Mercedes Discussion List
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
Anothe possibility my tech mentioned, though not likely, was a bad aux. water
pump.
On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Curt Raymond wrote
t; >> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Curt Raymond
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Assuming you notice the rise in temp and have someplace safe to stop...
>> >>
>> >> -Curt
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>> *From:* Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> >> *To:* "roger...@comcast.net" ; Mercedes
> Discussion
> >> List
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:52 PM
> >> *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
> >&g
-
>> *From:* Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>> *To:* "roger...@comcast.net" ; Mercedes Discussion
>> List
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:52 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
>>
>> I
:* Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> *To:* "roger...@comcast.net" ; Mercedes Discussion
> List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:52 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
>
> I believe it was Dimitri that made this allegation.
Assuming you notice the rise in temp and have someplace safe to stop...
-Curt
From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
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Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how
I believe it was Dimitri that made this allegation. I don't see anything
of the sort happening. WOrst case scenario, they leak some coolant and hte
tmperature gauge rises. In that case, stop the car and investigate prior
to running dry and blowing anything up.
BTW, do you know a source for Fren
Andrew,
I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but I'm intrigued by
the blow up your engine comment. How would a monovalve do that? I could
understand a stuck thermostat or some such, but a monovalve? It must be doing
something that I'm not familiar with.
Please exp
Larry, when you say "controller" you mean the push button module,
right?
On that system, the actual controller is separate from
the pushbutton module. Every PBU I've had has had problems,
but I've never had a controller go bad. The PBU just selects
functions, and gates the signals for the mode
Zackly!
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> And everyone knows... a happy wife, means a happy life!
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[MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside
- even with the heat on!
Ebay has MTC brand monovalves for between $17 and $55. Are these Chinese?
| MANUFACTURER | PART NUMBER | CONDITION |
| MTC | 000-835-06-44 | BRAND NEW |
OTHER PART NUMBERS: 1-147-213-007 / 11472
ld get...
>> -Curt
>> From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
>> outside - even with the heat on!
>>
>
Mercedes
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
> > outside - even with the heat on!
> >
> > I'm surprised Dr. Fatty would sell you one. I di
Larry, when you say "controller" you mean the push button module, right?
BTW, thanks for the troubleshooting tip - I will defintely try this and
unplug the monovalve assembly over the weekend.
On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:29 AM, fmiser via Mercedes
wrote:
> > Andrew wrote:
> >
> > Anyway, at idle
G: I've had one of Garys in the 300D for about 3 years; still works well.
> I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30
> which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably
> cheepchineechit too.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 12/23/14 2:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
com> wrote:
> HA! Could be it was all that he could get...
> -Curt
> From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
> outside - eve
HA! Could be it was all that he could get...
-Curt
From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside
- even with the heat on!
I'm surprised Dr.
I'm surprised Dr. Fatty would sell you one. I didn't think he would sell such
tripe?
Dan
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> On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:24 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Oh no, you didn't buy a Chinese monovalve! Ask Jon about those!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 23, 2014,
Oh no, you didn't buy a Chinese monovalve! Ask Jon about those!
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30 which
> is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably cheepch
I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30
which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably
cheepchineechit too.
--R
On 12/23/14 2:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
Pull the electrical connector at the monovalve. That should let the
monovalve st
trasfogel via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 11:57 PM
> To: Curt Raymond; Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
> outside - even with the heat on!
>
> Yeah, GMail in conversation mode aggregates all responses,
> Andrew wrote:
>
> Anyway, at idle there doesn't appear to be much difference in
> heat. My tech is betting it's the monovalve, with the ACC module
> a close second. I have a spare ACC module so will test this
> first before purchasing a monovalve. I did notice that the
> faster I drove and th
Original Message
From: Jon Agne via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 11:16 PM
To: Andrew Strasfogel; Mercedes Discussion List
Reply To: Jon Agne
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside
- even with the heat on!
>I did both, and my wife has
Hi Andrew,
Go with a new OE mono-valve. I had the same issue and bought 2 chinese
mono-valves from Rusty before crying uncle. The OE ($146 IIRC) has worked
perfectly since it was installed almost 3 winters ago. The cheap Chinese ones
would get a little tear in the rubber diaphragm allowing t
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 2:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
> outside - even with the heat on!
>
> I forgot to mention that it isn't the thermostat - the engine operating
> temperature was in the normal range. Has anyone replaced or k
Dec 22, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
Does it blow warmer when sitting at idle? Thats a sure sign of monovalve.
-Curt
From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 1:30 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter ho
Does it blow warmer when sitting at idle? Thats a sure sign of monovalve.
-Curt
From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 1:30 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside -
even with the heat on
A piece of 1/2" foam pipe insulation works wonders as a replacement for the
original rotted part.
Dan
Sent from my iPad
> On Dec 22, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> That system has two primary ills: bad solder joints in the
> pushbutton array, and a split monovalve in
That system has two primary ills: bad solder joints in the
pushbutton array, and a split monovalve insert. The former
makes it insane, and unable to do what it should, and the
latter just plain prevents heat. The tertiary ill is a
rotted foam hose going to the cabin air temperature sensor,
whic
I would start with looking at the monovalve.
As for the disparity in prices, I would suspect that the URO folks are somehow
involved.
A URO rep surfaced a while ago over at BenzWorld and he tried to defend their
products. Needless to say he went quiet rather quickly as people took him to
task
Drove back from NYC last night and almost froze to death. Crazy symptoms:
1. Blower works fine but even with wheel pegged to max heat, there is no
warmth to the air flow.
2. Two right side dash vents blow so cold they had to be shut off; two left
side blow lukewarm at best
3. Air to floor is icy
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