Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-08 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
The biggest thing which impacts performance of an automatic 240D is proper transmission functionality. If the shifts come too early, which is really common with cars that have not been tuned by someone who knows what they're doing, the car will be significantly handicapped. If you can hit the

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-08 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Don wrote: > I found an 82 240D automatic nearby with 211K miles. > I'm not sure that is safe to be on the highway! Only dangerous if you try to drive it like a "high powered" car. It's faster than a school bus, faster than a loaded truck from 10 to 18+ wheels. Why, it's faster than most fire

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Not dangerous but challenging. I commuted 140 miles a day 2 or 3 days a week for 4 years in my 79 240D automatic, much of it on I95 south of Boston. First thing is to chant "Gravity is my friend" & drive it like a bicycle. I described mine as a great middle lane car-~75 mph. I had 2 scary

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
My father had an '83 240D, it was actually decent in my opinion. Not the fastest car on the road, but more than adequate, as long as you weren't in a big hurry. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Yes, but  . . . . I believe Curt has also commented on the age and rustiness of the vehicle at times. I should think 85 mph should be fast enough in traffic in a car of questionable structural integrity. Randy On 07/10/2019 3:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Randy, I believe he was

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Randy, I believe he was driving in Boston traffic, where that is far from the top speed on the interstate… -D > On Oct 7, 2019, at 4:18 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 07/10/2019 3:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >> I can confirm 86mph as the top speed of a 240D.

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Some days I was leading the pack, some days I was mid pack, some days I had to move over into the center lane... -Curt On Monday, October 7, 2019, 4:19:38 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 07/10/2019 3:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >  I can confirm 86mph as the

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I had a Mustang rental once, it'd have been 2010 or so. I'd been on the road for 3 weeks and Angie had flown out to meet me. We were in San Francisco of all places to get that car.My big rolling bag wouldn't fit in the trunk and the seats didn't give ample space to get it in the back seat. So

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 07/10/2019 3:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I can confirm 86mph as the top speed of a 240D. When I was commuting in a 240D there was a 15 mile stretch of highway where I'd put 'er in the left lane with my right foot on floor and leave it there at 85. No hills in that section...

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I can confirm 86mph as the top speed of a 240D. When I was commuting in a 240D there was a 15 mile stretch of highway where I'd put 'er in the left lane with my right foot on floor and leave it there at 85. No hills in that section... -Curt On Monday, October 7, 2019, 12:30:23 PM EDT,

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 10:33:06 -0700 Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > The 240D automatic we had for a short time was just about the slowest > vehicle I've ever driven, even a bit slower than the 1960 Falcon I > learned to drive in. It takes a different mindset, that's for sure. > > Our W115 200D

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
You could always mix and match parts between the 240D and the 300D to get the car you want --- best engine/tranny in the best body. On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 12:57 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Dimitri LOVES his 240D - where is his valuable inut? > > On Mon,

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Dimitri LOVES his 240D - where is his valuable inut? On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 1:35 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > A 240D can handily outrun a 80klb semi, even a 600hp semi, on a freeway > ramp. > The semi needs a bigger hole to merge into. > The semis do all right. >

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
A 240D can handily outrun a 80klb semi, even a 600hp semi, on a freeway ramp. The semi needs a bigger hole to merge into. The semis do all right. But, when drivers see a semi crawling up ahead, they know instantly that they want to move to the left lane. You could always use the two bottle

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
The 240D automatic we had for a short time was just about the slowest vehicle I've ever driven, even a bit slower than the 1960 Falcon I learned to drive in. It takes a different mindset, that's for sure. Our W115 200D (manny) kicked its ass, and though it had _less_ horsepower it was infinitely

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
What Kaleb said - you'll be a better driver. You'll learn energy management, timing, and planning. It makes a GREAT first car for a new driver - safest thing you could but him/her in. No impulsive hot-rodding and showing off, very safe chassis with decent mass, etc. On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 12:12

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
And as to other drivers, they'll deal, they'll slow down or move over. They might talk big but thats just talk. -Curt On Monday, October 7, 2019, 11:57:32 AM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: Just have to learn to drive it. It’s a totally different mindset driving one of these.

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I have driven one as a daily in the past. You just have to get used to it and it’s fine. It makes you a much better driver because you have to plan ahead. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2019, at 10:43 AM, Don Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > I found an 82 240D automatic nearby with 211K

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
And don’t forget to leave one of your turn signals on all the time... you could also get a pair of the wrap-around cataract sunglasses to wear, too. -D > On Oct 7, 2019, at 12:52 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Buy it, then buy a blue hair wig, and only drive in the left lane... Ohh >

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Buy it, then buy a blue hair wig, and only drive in the left lane... Ohh and some good ear plugs so you won't be bothered by all the angry honking.. you'll be good... :))) Plan to leave early for appointments... On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 8:44 AM Don Snook via Mercedes wrote: > I found an 82 240D

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I rented one of those stupid pony cars in 1991 with a v8. (because it was the only thing available that day.)  I could not get either a small toolbox or a 4 cyl diesel head in the trunk. (OM 615/616)  I believe a 115 or 123 NA 300D could have run circles about it.  It was awful.  That or frod

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You need to inform us of the PRICE and the model year to get better feedback. On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 12:36 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > No worse than a lot of the cars back in the 70's when pollution control > came in etc. They were detuned to the point that

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
No worse than a lot of the cars back in the 70's when pollution control came in etc. They were detuned to the point that they could hardly move. I remember driving a Mustang II with a 4 cylinder engine as a loaner from the dealership. A 240D would have run circles around it. Randy On

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
My former message was a bit cryptic as I was trying to compose it quickly at a red light... As others have stated, while the performance or lack thereof of this configuration of the 240D is minimal, driving one configured this way merely requires the driver to become more tactical in their

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I'd always get irritated because the buttercups from town would drive 25 (in 45 or 55 zone) (used to be 70) outside of town, especially after dark, then when they got to where the streetlights were in town, they'd go 45 in a 25 zone.    THey just could not comprehend driving without street

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I never tried timing it to 70, but that is probably about right.   A 240D was never meant to be a freeway flyer.   An 87 300D or newer is much better for that.   You have to think like you are driving a truck in the 40s-60s.   We drove trucks with chevy 6 cylinder gassers.   You don't ever

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread MG via Mercedes
How can that be dangerous? I am very often behind people who take a quarter to a half of a mile to get up to 60 when getting onto a highway. None of them were ever driving a 240D. Don Snook via Mercedes wrote: I found an 82 240D automatic nearby with 211K miles. Has working a/c and good

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Just have to learn to drive it. It’s a totally different mindset driving one of these. Bob R Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Donald, > > These are common issues well known issues for this car. > > -D > >> On Oct 7, 2019, at 11:44

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Donald, These are common issues well known issues for this car. -D > On Oct 7, 2019, at 11:44 AM, Don Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > I found an 82 240D automatic nearby with 211K miles. Has working a/c and > good paint and interior. No rust. Everything works. But, I was looking up >

[MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Don Snook via Mercedes
I found an 82 240D automatic nearby with 211K miles. Has working a/c and good paint and interior. No rust. Everything works. But, I was looking up the specs on it. These cars have 67 HP (yes that is right, 67 horsepower). Top Speed 86 mph (this is a factory claim. I couldn't find anyone