Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes

2012-07-27 Thread Scott Ritchey
Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes I wipe down new rotors with acetone to remove any oil after mounting but before installing the calipers. On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: The main thing is you don't want any grease left on the rotors when

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes

2012-07-27 Thread Allan Streib
Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com writes: A spray can of brake cleaner (from FLAPS)works well and is pretty reasonable, especially on sale. Amazingly effective. There are two kinds, the non-chlorinated (usually a green can) and the original chlorinated hydrocarbon stuff (red can). The latter

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes

2012-07-26 Thread Larry T
I'll have to go back to the repair PDFs to find this, but when browsing the brake repair in the WSM (W124) I ran across a procedure to put sand paper between the pad and the rotor to clean the rotors. I was looking for something else so did not dwell on it - anyone use this method? I'll find

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes

2012-07-26 Thread Scott Ritchey
...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry T Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 12:16 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes I'll have to go back to the repair PDFs to find this, but when browsing the brake repair in the WSM (W124) I ran across a procedure to put sand paper between the pad

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes

2012-07-26 Thread OK Don
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes I'll have to go back to the repair PDFs to find this, but when browsing the brake repair in the WSM (W124) I ran across a procedure to put sand paper between the pad and the rotor to clean the rotors. I was looking for something else so did not dwell

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes

2012-07-25 Thread Scott Ritchey
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes Check the caliper thickness yourself against minimum thickness standards in the service manual to determine whether the rotors can be safely turned down. Chances are good that older worn rotors are already below specs, at least

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes

2012-07-25 Thread Curt Raymond
@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes Message-ID: 2603675E072E4E73A4C83496B6652A2F@ScottPC Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Last time I did rotors, I figured it was cheaper to just replace them if there is any doubt. An air impact wrench makes unbolting the rotor easy. But if you

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes

2012-07-25 Thread Allan Streib
I really appreciate the designs where the rotor is not part of/attached to the hub. I recently put new rotors on our Focus, and it's as easy as removing the wheel and caliper, and the rotor just pulls off. No repacking hubs, replacing hub seals, etc just to replace the rotor. Now it may be that

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes

2012-07-25 Thread Scott Ritchey
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes I really appreciate the designs where the rotor is not part of/attached to the hub. I recently put new rotors on our Focus, and it's as easy

[MBZ] Bleeding Brakes

2012-07-23 Thread Jerry Herrman
This submission is a question mainly directed at those individuals who do their own brake work and have had to deal with this issue. When replacing disc brake pads that are worn considerably, it is necessary to push back the wheel cylinder pistons to allow room for the new, thick pads. This

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes

2012-07-23 Thread clay monroe
remove the calipers and work on a bench. should replace fluid every two years and this way you can put fresh fluid in. I doubt you have so much fluid that you would cause it to overflow if you push the caliper open clay On Jul 23, 2012, at 6:35 PM, Jerry Herrman wrote: This submission is

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes

2012-07-23 Thread Dave Walton
Doing all 4 wheels with thin pads will guarantee an overflow in every car I've ever had. I suck the MC dry before I begin and suck it again when I'm done. I figure it's better to suck out the old stuff rather than pushing it through the lines. Better to push fresh clean brake fluid. Recently

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes

2012-07-23 Thread Allan Streib
Also if the rotors are pitted with rust, replace them. They will eat up the new pads in no time. A little dusty surface rust is not a problem, but if they are pitted or flaking they need to go. You can try to find a shop to turn them, but they uniformly tell me they are too thin to turn because

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes

2012-07-23 Thread Craig
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:38:41 -0400 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: You can try to find a shop to turn them, but they uniformly tell me they are too thin to turn because I think they want me to go to the parts counter and buy new instead. And, of course, our parts guy is Rusty at

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes

2012-07-23 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 7:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes Also if the rotors are pitted with rust, replace them. They will eat up the new

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes

2012-07-23 Thread Peter Frederick
Mercedes rotors WILL be too thin if there is a visible lip on them. They are NOT intended for lifetime service, unlike American cars. They are also very inexpensive as rotors go. All sorts of brake ills result from running them too thin, I see it on every single used Benz I run into,

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes

2012-07-23 Thread Frederick Moir
Herrman jer...@san.rr.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 9:35 PM Subject: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes This submission is a question mainly directed at those individuals who do their own brake work and have had to deal with this issue. When replacing disc brake pads

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes

2012-07-23 Thread Jim Cathey
Another issue I have is that of opening the cap on the MC. Does this allow moisture (say, on a humid day) to enter the MC? The caps are vented, so open or not it's not much different. That's why you bleed them periodically. -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes

2012-07-23 Thread Fmiser
Jerry Herrman wrote: Also, I worry about fluid going backward in the system - it just seems wrong somehow. Don't worry about this. It happens a bit every time you take your foot off the brake pedal. The rotors push back against the pads and some fluid will flow back up to the master

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding Brakes

2010-11-18 Thread Craig
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 20:57:22 -0500 Fred Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: Curt. A small brake fluid filled pressure vessel, just a few psi., would work too. Just enough pressure to move the fluid up from the slave to the master. 10-15 psi? Yes, 10 - 15 psi will work well. Craig