[MBZ] Blue Oval [was: Re: Decent US Car]

2006-12-03 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 02:27:40 -0600 tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was unsurprised then to read, with a bit of schadenfreude, that they mortgaged the rights to the Blue Oval itself this week. I didn't see anything about this. Please explain. (I do know what you mean by the Blue Oval,

Re: [MBZ] Blue Oval [was: Re: Decent US Car]

2006-12-03 Thread Mike Canfield
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 11:49 AM Subject: [MBZ] Blue Oval [was: Re: Decent US Car] On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 02:27:40 -0600 tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was unsurprised then to read, with a bit of schadenfreude, that they mortgaged the rights

Re: [MBZ] Blue Oval [was: Re: Decent US Car]

2006-12-03 Thread tom savage
Craig McCluskey wrote: I didn't see anything about this. Please explain. (I do know what you mean by the Blue Oval, it's the mortgaging the rights I'm curious about.) New CEO Alan Mullaly has put nearly all of Ford's assets up as collateral to finance its Way Forward turnaround program.

Re: [MBZ] Blue Oval [was: Re: Decent US Car]

2006-12-03 Thread Bill Gallagher
Additional note most news wire left out: After the loan is finalized , Ford's stock will have a negative value. How much was not mention good stock to look at when the problems are nearly over ... Bill 1981 300 TD tom savage wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: I didn't see anything about

Re: [MBZ] Blue Oval [was: Re: Decent US Car]

2006-12-03 Thread Michael Hall
Can you explain this/ tell me where you read/ heard it? The implication is that their debts would be greater than their assets, in which case, why would anyone loan them more than their worth? Isn't that the point of collateral, offer something up with value equal to the loan? I'm not doubting

Re: [MBZ] Blue Oval [was: Re: Decent US Car]

2006-12-03 Thread Peter Frederick
Because a bet is much better than losing everything they are into you for right now -- a company the size of Ford dropping dead will kill a couple of big banks and some investment firms. It's a fairly good bet, too -- Ford's problems aren't insurmountable and the solutions are obvious, just

Re: [MBZ] Blue Oval [was: Re: Decent US Car]

2006-12-03 Thread Bill Gallagher
Michael: The articles below explain some of your question there is 3 billion in unsecured notes in the total loan package of 18 billion. the 18B is to retools and adjust it's product line from 2007 to 2009 Of course, add in a billion or so more for under estimates and the like