Re: [MBZ] Cleaning the cooling system

2009-11-29 Thread OK Don
I think it's for corrosion reduction. I remember something similar related to the 450SLC when I was messing with it. On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote: > On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:58:33 -0500 "LarryT" wrote: > > > I read the procedure 20-015 you mentioned and it was very easy t

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning the cooling system

2009-11-29 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:58:33 -0500 "LarryT" wrote: > I read the procedure 20-015 you mentioned and it was very easy to follow > except for a comment saying to replace the coolant overflow tank with > one containing Silica Element - for my 602-96X Turbo that means pn 124 > 500 18 40. > > But I

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning the cooling system

2009-11-29 Thread LarryT
ouroil.net -- From: "Jim Arnott" Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 11:19 PM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cleaning the cooling system Thank you. Printed and added to repair notes. Jim On Nov 27, 2009, at 7:13 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning the cooling system

2009-11-28 Thread Jim Arnott
On Nov 28, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Rick Knoble wrote: From: "Jim Arnott" This isn't a secret, right? http://web.archive.org/web/20060427105508/mb.braingears.com/201_Chassis.htm You guys know about this, right? IIRC, it used to be a pay website. I am surprised MBUSA hasn't shut it down. Ric

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning the cooling system

2009-11-28 Thread Rick Knoble
From: "Jim Arnott" This isn't a secret, right? http://web.archive.org/web/20060427105508/mb.braingears.com/201_Chassis.htm You guys know about this, right? IIRC, it used to be a pay website. I am surprised MBUSA hasn't shut it down. Rick ___ http://

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning the cooling system

2009-11-27 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:39:37 -0800 Jim Arnott wrote: > This isn't a secret, right? > > http://web.archive.org/web/20060427105508/mb.braingears.com/201_Chassis.htm > > I managed to suck up all but about 100 pages of the factory manual here. > > You guys know about this, right? We've heard abou

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning the cooling system

2009-11-27 Thread Jim Arnott
This isn't a secret, right? http://web.archive.org/web/20060427105508/mb.braingears.com/201_Chassis.htm I managed to suck up all but about 100 pages of the factory manual here. You guys know about this, right? Jim On Nov 27, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote: On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:23

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning the cooling system

2009-11-27 Thread E M
Thanks, the typing was worth the effort, I saved a copy too. ;-) Ed 300E 2009/11/27 Craig McCluskey > On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:23:21 -0600 "harry watkins" > wrote: > > > Same here, that's a keeper, thanks. > > You're welcome. > > I hadn't sent it earlier because of the amount of typing, but in b

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning the cooling system

2009-11-27 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:23:21 -0600 "harry watkins" wrote: > Same here, that's a keeper, thanks. You're welcome. I hadn't sent it earlier because of the amount of typing, but in between batches of turkey soup I decided to give it a go. Craig ___ http://www.

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning the cooling system

2009-11-27 Thread harry watkins
Same here, that's a keeper, thanks. Harry - Original Message - From: "Jim Arnott" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cleaning the cooling system Thank you. Printed and added to repair notes. Jim

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning the cooling system

2009-11-27 Thread Jim Arnott
Thank you. Printed and added to repair notes. Jim On Nov 27, 2009, at 7:13 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote: On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:37:05 -0500 "Peter T. Arnold" > wrote: Be carefull what you use for "Detergent", it should be non foaming. A few tablespoons of TSP in fresh water will do the deed

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning the cooling system

2009-11-27 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:37:05 -0500 "Peter T. Arnold" wrote: > Be carefull what you use for "Detergent", it should be non foaming. A > few tablespoons of TSP in fresh water will do the deed. Drive about 20 > miles for max cleaning and flush it out. Follow by citric acid > cleaning. And note

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning the cooling system

2009-11-27 Thread Peter T. Arnold
Be carefull what you use for "Detergent", it should be non foaming. A few tablespoons of TSP in fresh water will do the deed. Drive about 20 miles for max cleaning and flush it out. Follow by citric acid cleaning. -- Pete Arnold 2007 HHR '95 F-250 P.S.D. '54 Metropolitan {Hanger Queen} Looki

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning the cooling system

2009-11-27 Thread Jim Arnott
Thank you all. Detergent followed by citrus cleaner after repair. So be it. Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options g

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning the cooling system

2009-11-26 Thread OK Don
Last I remember, the sequence was to remove the oil with a detergent type cleaner (the Prestone kits at the FLAPS), followed with the citric acid flush to remove the scale/calcium deposits. Since it's leaking now, I'd do all this after re-assembly. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Peter T. Arnold

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning the cooling system

2009-11-26 Thread Peter T. Arnold
I'm thinking that Mother Benz specifies a citric acid douche. Back in the day, I use plain water with a few ounces of TSP {AKA Spic & Span}, it would clean a dirty mind after a 20 mile drive. Happy Thanksgiving, while we are thankful for what we have, let us remember those who will be in need

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning the cooling system

2009-11-26 Thread Jim Cathey
you don't want to flush it out with soap and water before taking it apart if freezing is a possibility. This is a good use of the block heater, if you can't get it all done in one session (cleaning, flushing, new coolant). The heater will keep it from freezing 'til your next session. (So, of cou

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning the cooling system

2009-11-26 Thread Jim Cathey
You don't want bubbles. Automatic dishwasher detergent will degrease without foaming up. You don't want grit, either. Washing machine soap of some sort seems best to me. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To s

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning the cooling system

2009-11-26 Thread Mitch Haley
If you're mixing oil and coolant, you probably don't want to get detergent in the oil system. Also, you don't want to flush it out with soap and water before taking it apart if freezing is a possibility. I'd fix it first, then flush the oil out of the cooling system, then change the oil and re

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning the cooling system

2009-11-26 Thread Dave Walton
You don't want bubbles. Automatic dishwasher detergent will degrease without foaming up. -Dave Walton On Nov 25, 2009, at 11:02 PM, Jim Arnott wrote: We have a plan Looks like the head gasket replace on the 2.6 190e is going to happen next weekend (Dec 4). With a cooling system that

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning the cooling system

2009-11-26 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
If oil is leaking into the coolant passages then I'd clean afterwards. If coolant is leaking into oil then I don't think it matters. Not sure what to degrease it with. Dawn? Of course you might also want to perform the citric acid flush afterwards. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 25, 2009, at 11:0

[MBZ] Cleaning the cooling system

2009-11-25 Thread Jim Arnott
We have a plan Looks like the head gasket replace on the 2.6 190e is going to happen next weekend (Dec 4). With a cooling system that is well oiled, what is the list wisdom regarding cooling system cleaning? Before or after the replace? Suggested products? (With as much oil as there is