Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-23 Thread Fmiser
G Mann wrote: I've had great success with two hammers, no press. The system works like this, back off the nut, but leave it on to protect threads. Place a heavy hammer [2 or 3 lb. works] on back side of the arm and smartly smack the opposite side with another hammer that has good mass. I

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-23 Thread andrew strasfogel
On 4/23/12, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: G Mann wrote: I've had great success with two hammers, no press. The system works like this, back off the nut, but leave it on to protect threads. Place a heavy hammer [2 or 3 lb. works] on back side of the arm and smartly smack the opposite side

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-23 Thread G Mann
Errr... it's possible I lost the plot on this one.. can't find the original post. My apology is that's the case. On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 6:51 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: On 4/23/12, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: G Mann wrote: I've had great success with two

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-23 Thread Rick Knoble
On Apr 23, 2012, at 10:04 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Errr... it's possible I lost the plot on this one.. can't find the original post. My apology is that's the case. You asked. Kind of. Here's the original post. Rick Sent from my iPhone. A. With rumors that Sears will be going

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-23 Thread andrew strasfogel
Some of us are just so thrilled to have tools at all that we don't even think to check on where they're made... On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Apr 23, 2012, at 10:04 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Errr... it's possible I lost the plot on

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Curt Raymond
quite a worn gear from years with no lubrication but its much better now than it was. -Curt Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 16:05:00 -0700 From: Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools Message-ID: 86EA15007479495CB1D5F47B6F1DEC04@JerryPC Content-Type: text

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Peter Frederick
Subject: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools Message-ID: 86EA15007479495CB1D5F47B6F1DEC04@JerryPC Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 A. With rumors that Sears will be going into bankruptcy, what will become of the opportunity to return broken hand tools to Sears for an even exchange? B. I had

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Dan Penoff
returned. Too bad I'd waited so long, one had quite a worn gear from years with no lubrication but its much better now than it was. -Curt Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 16:05:00 -0700 From: Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools Message-ID

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Dieselhead
Ahhh Jerry, I won't mention where Craftsman are made... I've given up on Sears entirely which probably helps to explain their troubles. The staff is what really gets me, they're idiots. For tools that don't have moving parts I've switched entirely to Harbor Freight. Their wrenches and

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Dieselhead
Sears' demographic has changed significantly, and they are pretty obvious about it. I forgot to add that even 40 years ago, the cheap junk wrenches from india that you could buy for $3-5 per set were better than crapsman wrenches. The indian wrenches were almost identical to the Heyco

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Peter Frederick
Terrible marketing, but after all, Sears is owned by K-Mart, so you really have a tarted up K-mart store instead of a major retailer. Sears missed the boat decades ago, when they slashed quality to make up for loss of catalog sales to the low end of the market. Those sales went to the

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Peter Frederick
Some of them are great, some are junk. I don't mind the poor finish so long as the working bits are the right size and shape and they don't bend. There is nothing on earth more annoying than open-end wrenches that visibly spread when you use them, except possibly a Harbor Freight ball

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
BTW the old as in up until two years ago production of craftsman pro full polish combo wrenches were tool truck quality. The HF wrenches are complete crap when put up against the cman pro. As far as lubing coarse tooth ratchets such as the old Cman stuff go with Permatex Assembly Lube. It is

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have the hf ball joint press, pressed many sets in and out with it with no problem Sent from my iPhone On Apr 22, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Some of them are great, some are junk. I don't mind the poor finish so long as the working bits are the right

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Curt Raymond
@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools Message-ID: 1335105158.48667.yext-apple-iph...@web125105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii BTW the old as in up until two years ago production of craftsman pro full polish combo wrenches were tool truck quality. The HF

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Dieselhead
And the expensive ball joint press i rented was already sprung. It was no better than the HF. The trick with the HF (or anyone else's) press is to put tension on the joint, then smack it with a 2 to 4 lb hammer. THe old joint will come out without ruining the press if you use care. Going

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
for 5x the price... -Curt Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 07:32:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools Message-ID: 1335105158.48667.yext-apple-iph...@web125105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Max
Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: The trick with the HF (or anyone else's) press is to put tension on the joint, then smack it with a 2 to 4 lb hammer. Another method is to heat the joint when applying pressure with the H F press. Which is more fun, big hammer or blue wrench? -- Max

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Dieselhead
Flame wrench is more fun, but I don't have one anymore. Also exciting when you light the garage, grass, or fuel on fire. Even burning rubber and grease can get to be a challenge. Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: The trick with the HF (or anyone else's) press is to put tension on the

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread G Mann
I've had great success with two hammers, no press. The system works like this, back off the nut, but leave it on to protect threads. Place a heavy hammer [2 or 3 lb. works] on back side of the arm and smartly smack the opposite side with another hammer that has good mass.. [light taps and light

[MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-21 Thread Jerry Herrman
A. With rumors that Sears will be going into bankruptcy, what will become of the opportunity to return broken hand tools to Sears for an even exchange? B. I had a Craftsman good quality offset screwdriver (slotted, not philips), just like this one on Ebay:

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-21 Thread Rick Knoble
A. With rumors that Sears will be going into bankruptcy, what will become of the opportunity to return broken hand tools to Sears for an even exchange? A. Just because a company files BK, doesn't mean they are going to fold up. B. I had a Craftsman good quality offset screwdriver (slotted,

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-21 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I hate to break it to you Jerry but as of the past two years, Sears has been slowly outsourcing their Craftsman hand tool line to China. It started with the full polish pro line of wrenches- no longer pro and now china made. The raised panels are still USA. Then they started with the raised

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman tools (was Harbor Freight wrenches impress)

2008-09-12 Thread George Larribeau
: [MBZ] Craftsman tools (was Harbor Freight wrenches impress) I guess it depends on the store and sales person. Our store cheerfully replaces any craftsman tool I bring in, including a hammer with a split in the rubber handle covering, swivel adapters (1/4 and 3/8) which became too flexible

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman tools (was Harbor Freight wrenches impress)

2008-09-12 Thread Rich Thomas
Those tools that Lowes sells (Kobalt?) seem pretty nice. They have some nice comfy grips on a lot of them, and they have the replacement warranty. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman tools (was Harbor Freight wrenches impress)

2008-09-12 Thread PM7088
-- Original message -- From: George Larribeau [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sears will replace craftsman hand tools. About 30 years ago a Well Tooled friend lost his garage to the foundation in a fire, including a 3 year old 'vett and all his other stuff. Lucky, he was

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman tools (was Harbor Freight wrenches impress)

2008-09-12 Thread John Robbins
Rich Thomas wrote: Those tools that Lowes sells (Kobalt?) seem pretty nice. They have some nice comfy grips on a lot of them, and they have the replacement warranty. I've been happy with my on-sale Autozone sockets and wrenches. They are very easy to read, fit well, comfortable, etc. I

[MBZ] Craftsman tools (was Harbor Freight wrenches impress)

2008-09-11 Thread Allan Streib
Last time I was as Sears, the hand tools, and I would say really just the wrenches, still looked decent. ALL their power tools and pneumatic tools are generic chinese low-bidder production. The pliers and screwdrivers aren't great either. I think the guaranteed forever used to be a statement

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman tools (was Harbor Freight wrenches impress)

2008-09-11 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Craftsman tools (was Harbor Freight wrenches impress) Last time I was as Sears, the hand tools, and I would say really just the wrenches, still looked decent. ALL their power tools and pneumatic tools

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman tools (was Harbor Freight wrenches impress)

2008-09-11 Thread Loren Faeth
Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Craftsman tools (was Harbor Freight wrenches impress

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman tools (was Harbor Freight wrenches impress)

2008-09-11 Thread OK Don
I guess it depends on the store and sales person. Our store cheerfully replaces any craftsman tool I bring in, including a hammer with a split in the rubber handle covering, swivel adapters (1/4 and 3/8) which became too flexible to hold a socket in place, a hex bit (5mm) that kept slipping out of