Re: [MBZ] diesel cherokees on Phoenix Craig's list

2008-04-07 Thread ernest breakfield
if by "plain Cherokee" you mean the classic boxy XJ that they haven't made for about 7 years, they were available for a few years with an awful (Renault?) diesel back in the 80s. cheers! e Loren Faeth wrote: > A plain cherokee had no diesel option as far as I know. ___

Re: [MBZ] diesel cherokees on Phoenix Craig's list

2008-04-07 Thread Jeff Zedic
Come to the UK if you want crappy cars/vans with a dieselall the Grand Voyagers in my neighbourhood are diesel. So are the Cheeps...and Land Rovers/Range Rovers...well, not ALL the Range Roverssome poseurs still drive the petrol crap. You gotta love all the Aston Martins and Bentley Contin

Re: [MBZ] diesel cherokees on Phoenix Craig's list

2008-04-07 Thread Loren Faeth
Huh? The 2007 Cheep Grand Cherokee was the only one of the much touted 2007 dodge lineup with MB Bluetec engines that actually materialized. Only problem was that the Cheep was $50k. I told the Stealer that for $50 k, I'd buy a real Mercedes. The Cheep Liberty had an italian (no parts avail

Re: [MBZ] diesel cherokees on Phoenix Craig's list

2008-04-06 Thread Peter Frederick
Some of them had a turbocharged Detroit. Got horrible milage -- I'd have thought 30 + with a 602 variant, they got 22 with the diesel. The 4.0L gasser gets 18, I think. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http:

[MBZ] diesel cherokees on Phoenix Craig's list

2008-04-05 Thread jfreezn
Sticker on? these is about 38K.? I thought they were 3.2 L tho. Jim in Phoenix 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0 Diesel 2 left! New lower price! - $30230 (Scottsdale,AZ) Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008-03-07, 6:16PM MST We have 2 Diesels left and they need to go!!! The 3.0 Crd is in Ward

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cherokees

2006-06-07 Thread John W. Reames III
I thought the "modern" (XJ/1984-2001) cherokees were lighter, I seem to recall that they were 3000-3100lbs, where the "Full Size" jeeps (earlier cherokees/wagoneers, and grand cherokee/wagoneer through 1993 (SJ body style)) were in the 4500lb neighborhood... Those I-6's are pretty respectable

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cherokees

2006-06-06 Thread Donald Snook
David B. wrote: "I had a roommate in college that had one, although his only had one tank. The gas gauge was broken, so we filled up every 100 miles, which made it depressingly easy to figure the fuel economy. If I remember right we got 10 mpg solo, 6 mpg pulling a snowmobile trailer

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cherokees

2006-06-06 Thread David Brodbeck
Kevin wrote: Second, a v8 quadratrac four door full size jeep from the seventies with the ultra-rare two-tank option weighs 4600 lbs on the scales. I have one. [And yes, it really needs the second tank. Boy is that thing thirsty.] Thanks for the correction. I had a roommate in college that

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cherokees

2006-06-06 Thread Kevin
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 11:22:05AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote: > Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > > Wonder why they were so slow, even with turbos. > > Jeeps are HEAVY. I don't know what a Cherokee weighed, but the 70s > Wagoneers were nearly three tons IIRC. For starters, that cherokee was a comple

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cherokees

2006-06-06 Thread ernest breakfield
we can't compare XJ Cherokees to the Full Size J**ps; XJs (like those of the diesel vintage) didn't weigh anywhere near that much. since they're frame-less unitized construction, even with the wife and myself in ours, our modified mid-90s 4x4 XJ with a 4.0L and automatic trans weighs in under un

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cherokees

2006-06-06 Thread David Brodbeck
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Wonder why they were so slow, even with turbos. Jeeps are HEAVY. I don't know what a Cherokee weighed, but the 70s Wagoneers were nearly three tons IIRC.

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cherokees

2006-06-06 Thread Loren Faeth
Same reasons the Nissans in Scouts were slow. Nobody builds automotive diesels like MB and VW. High RPM, Inj timing advance, high P/W ratio, high performance inj pumps. Related to why MB 4 and 6 cyl gassers outperform detroit iron on P/W or HP/Cu In At 08:41 AM 6/6/2006, you wrote: Won

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cherokees

2006-06-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Wonder why they were so slow, even with turbos. Kevin wrote: On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 01:45:53AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: <<86 diesel jeep cherokee?? didnt know they made them.>. For the European market. I saw a few in Italy about that time. Slow and smoky. Perhaps VM engines. Rena

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cherokees

2006-06-06 Thread Kevin
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 01:45:53AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > <<86 diesel jeep cherokee?? didnt know they made them.>. > > For the European market. I saw a few in Italy about that time. Slow and > smoky. Perhaps VM engines. Renault. Available stateside two years (86, 87?). 2.1L TD. Even w

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cherokees

2006-06-06 Thread RELNGSON
<<86 diesel jeep cherokee?  didnt know they made them.>. For the European market. I saw a few in Italy about that time. Slow and smoky. Perhaps VM engines. RLE