Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT fried receiver and sound y8anetu3

2015-02-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Hard telling. You could ask Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: But can they help me get my rcvr restored? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT fried receiver and sound y8anetu3

2015-02-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
But can they help me get my rcvr restored? --R On 2/10/15 9:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Penn and Teller do a really good video on the subject. Dan Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2015, at 9:08 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A fool that doesn't get

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT fried receiver and sound y8anetu3

2015-02-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT fried receiver and sound y8anetu3 Penn and Teller do a really good video on the subject. Dan Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2015, at 9

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT fried receiver and sound y8anetu3

2015-02-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Penn and Teller do a really good video on the subject. Dan Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2015, at 9:08 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A fool that doesn't get vaccinated is a danger to us all. On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Craig via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT fried receiver and sound y8anetu3

2015-02-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
A fool that doesn't get vaccinated is a danger to us all. On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Mon, 9 Feb 2015 18:21:20 -0600 Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What's the line about a fool and his money? A fool and his

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT fried receiver and sound y8anetu3

2015-02-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I would have to do some digging to find them, but the same people who spend thousands on cables also buy these little bridge things, like the plastic thing in a pizza delivery box, to keep their cables off the floor. When I was dabbling in vintage audio a few years ago I saw stuff like this and

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT fried receiver and sound y8anetu3

2015-02-09 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
It's on the board side, there is a power feed going to the board, I disconnected that and the unit powered up OK. Plugged the board power back in and the protection relay started chattering. --R On 2/8/15 12:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Probably the output transistors unless

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT fried receiver and sound y8anetu3

2015-02-09 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
But they will let your amplifier go to 11 !!! --R On 2/9/15 10:54 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 10:48:45 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I would have to do some digging to find them, but the same people who spend thousands on cables also buy

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT fried receiver and sound y8anetu3

2015-02-09 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 10:57:25 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The truly sad part about this is that a market even exists for such things. Yes, indeed. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT fried receiver and sound y8anetu3

2015-02-09 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 9 Feb 2015 10:20:53 -0500 Tim Crone via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: BTW you should always check your cabling, maybe try http://www.audiovisualonline.co.uk/product/8041/audioquest-diamond-rj-e-ethernet-cable-12m Then again, maybe not! What a way to separate gullible

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT fried receiver and sound y8anetu3

2015-02-09 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 10:48:45 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I would have to do some digging to find them, but the same people who spend thousands on cables also buy these little bridge things, like the plastic thing in a pizza delivery box, to keep their cables off

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT fried receiver and sound y8anetu3

2015-02-09 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Feb 8, 2015 12:39 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The relay clicks like a machine gun on startup so I guess some sort of overvoltage protection is kicking in. Anyone have any luck doing anything with stuff like this? I have two receivers with bad HDMI boards, on the

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT fried receiver and sound y8anetu3

2015-02-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The truly sad part about this is that a market even exists for such things. Dan Sent from my iPad On Feb 9, 2015, at 10:54 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 10:48:45 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I would have to do some

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT fried receiver and sound y8anetu3

2015-02-09 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I think it is awesome that someone can make something and get someone else to willingly part with huge amounts of money for it, and probably feel gratified having done it. --R On 2/9/15 11:48 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 10:57:25 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT fried receiver and sound y8anetu3

2015-02-09 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 9 Feb 2015 18:21:20 -0600 Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What's the line about a fool and his money? A fool and his money are soon parted. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT fried receiver and sound y8anetu3

2015-02-09 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
--R wrote: I think it is awesome that someone can make something and get someone else to willingly part with huge amounts of money for it, and probably feel gratified having done it. ...and... that is what our market is these days, isn't it. Convince everyone that measles will kill you so get

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT fried receiver and sound y8anetu3

2015-02-09 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Anyone have any luck doing anything with stuff like this? I've had very good luck keeping things with real power switches going. Things with push-on/push-off always on circuitry, and switching power supplies --- not so much. The TV got fixed, but only by wholesale replacement of the power

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT fried receiver and sound y8anetu3

2015-02-08 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Probably the output transistors unless something in the power supply has let go. I just had a Mac buddy give me a Pioneer high end receiver that's about 8 years old for the cost of shipping. Looks like one of the hybrid devices that serves as an amplifier is toast. $12/each, and three are

[MBZ] Fwd: OT fried receiver and sound y8anetu3

2015-02-08 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I have this pretty nice Sony receiver I bought a coupla years ago off CL for cheap, was working great until it took a power hit when our power went off. I did some googling and determined it is likely something on the main circuit board but I haven't dug into that part of it as it is kinda