Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Question / Weirdness

2017-03-22 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
I'm sure the issue will resurface. I'll snag a new glow plug on my next order from an aftermarket supplier. That way I'll have one handy when I feel the need for some serious car repair self abuse. -D Sent from my iPad > On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:31 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Question / Weirdness

2017-03-22 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
The diagnostic circuit is not perfect, so it doesn't always tell you that there is a problem. The glow plug is still bad. - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:28 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Worked normally this morning. Ambient around 60F,

Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Question / Weirdness

2017-03-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Worked normally this morning. Ambient around 60F, took 25-30 seconds to glow, no glow lights on the 25 minute drive to work. Hmmm. -D > On Mar 22, 2017, at 5:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I did not and it does not have a fuse for the GP relay, only a

Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Question / Weirdness

2017-03-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I did not and it does not have a fuse for the GP relay, only a strip fuse for the ACC blower. Based on the initial diagnostics it sounds like the #3 glow plug has failed. The symptoms are pretty much what the manual describes - little or no glow plug light on startup, glow plug light coming

Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Question / Weirdness

2017-03-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Did you swap out/in the GP relay and/or fuse (if it has them)? On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:32 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yeah, I bought one or 2 sets of Beru, but normally just use the Bosch. I > generally replace only one at a time because the MTBF is not

Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Question / Weirdness

2017-03-21 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Yeah, I bought one or 2 sets of Beru, but normally just use the Bosch. I generally replace only one at a time because the MTBF is not a narrow band. Some last 20 years, some last 1. The exception in on an OM603 if I am going to take off the manifold and there are at least 2 bad on a car I

Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Question / Weirdness

2017-03-21 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
On the OM603 and earlier engines, I think Bosch are the best choice, that's what I just put in my '87 wagon. Beru is preferred for the OM606 engines because they seem to be made of sturdier stuff (they publish a maximum torque that can be applied when removing the plugs, haven't found that for

Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Question / Weirdness

2017-03-21 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Didn't think the compressor was running with the high vent temperatures, so not KLIMA if you have compressor engaging. Did some of your refrigerant leak out? Maybe the car just wants some attention? - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <

Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Question / Weirdness

2017-03-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Interesting about the Beru GPs, too. They’re tough to find and about 3x the cost of the Bosch. That’s what I’ll replace it with. The Bosch is about a year old, I replaced them last May. -D > On Mar 21, 2017, at 8:22 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > #3 is

Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Question / Weirdness

2017-03-21 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
#3 is not the worst. 1 and 6 are easiest. Dan Penoff via Mercedes March 21, 2017 at 7:04 PM Did a quick resistance check: 1 - 0.7 Ω 2 - 0.7 Ω 3 - 25 Ω 4 - 0.7 Ω 5 - 0.7 Ω 6 - 0.7 Ω So based on this I assume I have a bad #3 glow plug. Of course, as it’s

Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Question / Weirdness

2017-03-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Did a quick resistance check: 1 - 0.7 Ω 2 - 0.7 Ω 3 - 25 Ω 4 - 0.7 Ω 5 - 0.7 Ω 6 - 0.7 Ω So based on this I assume I have a bad #3 glow plug. Of course, as it’s probably the most difficult one to get to… I may decide to live with this for a while, since cold weather starting isn’t an issue

Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Question / Weirdness

2017-03-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
And the tach is working. -D > On Mar 21, 2017, at 7:29 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > > I wondered about the KLIMA, but since I’m getting compressor operation, what > else would it be affecting? > > Thanks, > > -D > >> On Mar 21, 2017, at 6:41 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Question / Weirdness

2017-03-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I put a set of Bosch GPs in it. Can I check resistances from the GP relay like you can on OM617s? Thanks, -D > On Mar 21, 2017, at 6:24 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > the GP light is an indication that you have GPs. They are not related to > mileage.

Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Question / Weirdness

2017-03-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I wondered about the KLIMA, but since I’m getting compressor operation, what else would it be affecting? Thanks, -D > On Mar 21, 2017, at 6:41 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Not related. HVAC sounds like KLIMA relay or push button unit. If your >

Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Question / Weirdness

2017-03-21 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Not related. HVAC sounds like KLIMA relay or push button unit. If your tachometer also died, then the OVP relay would be suspect. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 21, 2017 5:55:29 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >The 350SDL started acting

Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Question / Weirdness

2017-03-21 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
the GP light is an indication that you have GPs. They are not related to mileage. Beru have the reputation to last longer, but that is no guarantee. Dan Penoff via Mercedes March 21, 2017 at 4:55 PM The 350SDL started acting weird this morning…. No glow plug

[MBZ] Glow Plug Question / Weirdness

2017-03-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The 350SDL started acting weird this morning…. No glow plug light when I went to start it up, or if it did come on it was only for a few seconds and I missed it. Ambient was maybe 50F, possibly a little warmer. About 5-10 minutes later as I’m driving down the street, the glow plug light