Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are -- now remote work

2020-12-04 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
Exact description of the Korean College exams that are being seated this week. Lots of complaints that the physical accommodations are horrid and impacts to future success are being damaged by Plexiglas panels, masking, cyber stalking recording and locked down computers. Not sure, sounds

Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are -- now remote work

2020-12-04 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
Trousers For me it was home is where the trousers are not worn. Work required I look human and behave human. --- clay I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm looking for didn't fall out. > On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:29 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are -- now remote work

2020-12-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
You'd have to get rid of the CEO, CTO and all the other do nothing corporate types that eat up the vast majority of the budget while providing very little in return... -Curt On Friday, December 4, 2020, 3:57:17 PM EST, mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: On 2020-12-04 14:53, Curt Raymond

Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are -- now remote work

2020-12-04 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2020-12-04 14:53, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I've read about folks who have workstations that track active time, so if you don't interact every 5 seconds or so it assumes you've left. Pretty good sign it's time to get a new job... How hard is it to track $$$ spent vs work received,

Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are -- now remote work

2020-12-04 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2020-12-04 15:28, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I’ve heard that our certification authorities are doing stuff like this so they can still have people testing for certs. I’m curious as to how they do it… I did a 16 hour webinar for CPE credit last month. 4x an hour a prompt would appear on

Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are -- now remote work

2020-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
For the online exams, you have to install and use a "lockdown browser" which takes over your computer and prevents you from accessing any other applications or unapproved websites. Your camera and microphone is used to verify that nobody else is in the room helping you, and supposedly also to

Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are -- now remote work

2020-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Rick Knoble via Mercedes writes: >>Also since I use an obscure OS at home, > > What OS? OpenBSD. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are -- now remote work

2020-12-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I’ve heard that our certification authorities are doing stuff like this so they can still have people testing for certs. I’m curious as to how they do it… -D > On Dec 4, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > The next thing is using the camera and screenshots to verify that

Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are -- now remote work

2020-12-04 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>Also since I use an obscure OS at home, What OS? Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are -- now remote work

2020-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
The next thing is using the camera and screenshots to verify that you are sitting at the computer and actually working on work stuff. Similar stuff is being done for students taking online exams, to try to detect cheating. Yeah I would not work under those conditions. Also since I use an obscure

Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are -- now remote work

2020-12-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Agreed. Just as there are app developers out there who have come up with apps that “twitch” your mouse every few minutes, too. -D > On Dec 4, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > I've read about folks who have workstations that track active time, so if you > don't interact every 5

Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are -- now remote work

2020-12-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I've read about folks who have workstations that track active time, so if you don't interact every 5 seconds or so it assumes you've left. Pretty good sign it's time to get a new job... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 2:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are -- now remote work

2020-12-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Our HR department was reaching out to find some sort of application or logging method to track employee’s time via Active Directory or VPN access. We pretty much told them “No” and explained that logging can’t be a means of time racking, as it’s easy to spoof and doesn’t always relate directly

Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are -- now remote work

2020-12-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I keep a definite separation of church and state, 8 hours after I log in I log out and go do something else.Or sometimes, like hunting season, I take a couple hours off to hunt and log back in after dark.I think the hip and trendy term is "work/life balance". Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on

Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are -- now remote work

2020-12-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
This is a common finding in the research on remote workers who work from home. They typically put in more hours because there’s no disconnect between home and work. There can also be concerns that there is a perception that if they’re not producing they’re not working. This is also something

Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are -- now remote work

2020-12-04 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 04/12/2020 11:29 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I was teleworking full time before I retired this summer . . . Did I miss something? I don't recall you saying you had retired. Congratulations! You made it out alive. RB ___

Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are -- now remote work

2020-12-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I was teleworking full time before I retired this summer and as you said, missed the daily interactions with other humans. I also found that working from home meant LONGER hours, since I had no reason to log out and there was always a new email to open, which often kept me well beyond 8 hours.

Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are -- now remote work

2020-12-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I would agree with this. I have a team that I work with, two of which are younger people about 20 years my junior, and one who is a few years older than me. We all get along well and have a lot of common interests, so the social interaction was definitely a part of the work day. I definitely

Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are -- now remote work

2020-12-04 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I realized when I was at Lotus that I was working mostly with people who were not in my office so it really didn't matter much where I was.  Instead of fighting traffic at 830 I would drop the kids at school, go home and work for a coupla hours, make phone calls, emails, work on computer