Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yeah, I would not want to be around the Cape tomorrow night. Buddy of mine who is a contractor over there for some of the ground support stuff said they are battening down the hatches then bugging out in the morning before it gets really ugly. Dan > On Oct 5, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Floyd

Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-05 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I finished my main house a little while ago with the panels the PO had cut. I put them up once before 6 or 7 years ago so I had them all marked for which window. I pulled out the OSB I bought a few years back for the addition so I would have it if I need it but I need to cut it tomorrow

Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-05 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
In the last few hours I've purchased and installed 7/16 thick OSB on four of seven downstairs windows. I may cover up a couple of the upstairs windows, I can reach two without a really big ladder. At the lumberyard they sell a "system" for mounting the windows, basically 1/4 inch lag bolts, and

Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-05 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 05/10/2016 1:49 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: The problem with something like this that is permanent is that the government gets involved. Most shutters you see are decorative in nature and would be worthless for protection. There are "storm shutters" as you describe, but they're

Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-05 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
t <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 6:57 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection > > I realize that, but the closer the plywood is to the window surface and the > bracing of the t

Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-05 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Yup. The 2x2 across the middle would match up with the frame between the panes (they're double hung windows.) Dan Sent from my iPad > On Oct 5, 2016, at 11:08 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > > I'd put a 2x2 frame around the inside, as a spacer, and one strip >

Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-05 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
I'd put a 2x2 frame around the inside, as a spacer, and one strip horizontally across the middle to serve as a stiffener and a handle for hanging it up inside your window opening. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Good point, Jim. This is why I put this out to the group. I would maybe use a furring strip or something to space the plywood out from the window slightly. Of course, if there was a big projectile, it probably wouldn't matter anyway. Thanks! Dan > On Oct 5, 2016, at 1:35 AM, Jim Cathey via

Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-04 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Thoughts: Expandable load-blocking rods like Harbor Freight sells for use in pickup beds. If the plywood's up against the window, where does the shock go? If the plywood's too close to the glass, when the flying cow slams into it does the wood flex enough to break the glass anyway? -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-04 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
In addition to Fmisers points, another concern might be that the blasts of wind pressure are transferred to the window frame instead of the concrete block structure. While this is probably unlikely to cause damage, insurance estimators might seize on Dans idea as a "non-standard" way to

Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-04 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I think the guamanians have the best idea. Concrete house with concrete roof. Vertical bars across windows. When the typhoon comes, they slide planks behind the bars to protect the windows, go inside and ride it out. Curt Raymond via Mercedes October 4, 2016

Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-04 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Dan, Years ago at Lowe's they sold spring clamps which attached around the outside edge of the plywood, for brick homes. The plywood was cut about half an inch shy of the recessed opening, so that the spring clamps had room all around the plywood perimeter to be squeezed between brick and

Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
doesn't talk to us anymore... -Curt From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Floyd Thursby <buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection Thos

Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-04 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection I realize that

Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection I realize that, but the closer

Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I realize that, but the closer the plywood is to the window surface and the bracing of the tension rods should make it pretty difficult. Of course, if we’re talking 140 mph winds all bets are off, but that will be the least of my worries should it occur. Dan > On Oct 4, 2016, at 6:29 PM,

Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-04 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Dan wrote: > > Since it would be recessed and up against the window and frame, > it’s not exposed to the wind (the wind couldn’t get behind it.) The wind blowing across the _front_ can create a low-pressure area that will "pull" the plywood outward from the window - not just if the wind can

Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-04 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
There are ones that are short enough for a window opening, maybe 36". Dan Sent from my iPad > On Oct 4, 2016, at 2:48 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes > wrote: > > Shower curtain rods if window openings wide enough. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 4, 2016, at 2:46 PM,

Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-04 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I used 2 1/2" drywall or deck screws every foot around. So far they have worked ok. (Spaced 12" o.C.) Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes October 4, 2016 at 1:45 PM What sort of clamp would hold in the plywood? It would have to be VERY strong. On Tue, Oct 4, 2016

Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-04 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
That is how I did the protection for #1 Daughter's house. Where one sheet of plywood would not cover the window or sliding door, I used a 2x4 or 2 across the joint on the outside as a hurricane brace. The cover for one small window was made of cutoff scrap, so it has 2 2x4 braces.

Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Why not just move up here to DC? All the mod cons and we NEVER get hurricanes. Plus, we broaden our tax base with tax paying Mercedes classicists. :) On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > You want to look at the screws you screw in

Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-04 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
You want to look at the screws you screw in permanently, they have a wood thread that goes into the frame or whatever, and a bolt thread on the other end that sticks out. You make your panels for each window and mark them, drill the mounting holes in the panel, put on the nuts and washers and

Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-04 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
Shower curtain rods if window openings wide enough. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 4, 2016, at 2:46 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Thanks! > > I'm trying to find a source for some stout tension rods. I'm sure they're out > there, but most of what I see are

Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Thanks! I'm trying to find a source for some stout tension rods. I'm sure they're out there, but most of what I see are curtain rods. Dan > On Oct 4, 2016, at 2:34 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes > wrote: > > I like your idea > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 4, 2016, at

Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What sort of clamp would hold in the plywood? It would have to be VERY strong. On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote: > I like your idea > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 4, 2016, at 2:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com>

Re: [MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-04 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
I like your idea Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 4, 2016, at 2:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have been wondering about a possible approach to protecting the windows in > my house that are the most likely to be damaged by flying debris in a > hurricane or

[MBZ] Ideas/Opinions on Hurricane Window Protection

2016-10-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I have been wondering about a possible approach to protecting the windows in my house that are the most likely to be damaged by flying debris in a hurricane or tropical storm. The typical way people do it is to have a sheet of plywood that is screwed to the wall of the home, completely