Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time to fit a proper filter!

2013-10-08 Thread OK Don
Getting picky here, but the TR 4 had an inline four cyl. The TR 250 had a six in the same body, and was followed by the TR 6 with a new body style. On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:50 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I saw this thing stuffed into a TR 4 inline six this weekend

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time to fit a proper filter!

2013-10-08 Thread clay
IT did not look right, but body was racing green, inline with the add on blower. Had the Triumph hood pad clay On Oct 8, 2013, at 10:00 AM, OK Don wrote: Getting picky here, but the TR 4 had an inline four cyl. The TR 250 had a six in the same body, and was followed by the TR 6 with a new

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time to fit a proper filter!

2013-10-08 Thread OK Don
Probably a transplant then. I doubt the Olds v* looked right in my MGA either :-) On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 12:07 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: IT did not look right, but body was racing green, inline with the add on blower. Had the Triumph hood pad clay -- OK Don They who can

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time to fit a proper filter!

2013-10-07 Thread Michael Canfield
Propane injection is great for a Diesel if ya wanna drag race or pull hard. Mike On Oct 7, 2013 12:53 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: All this chatter about filters and intake, I just had enlightenment. Looking at the way the intake is built on the early R107, the opening is a bit

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time to fit a proper filter!

2013-10-07 Thread OK Don
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 11:53 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: All this chatter about filters and intake, I just had enlightenment. snip Wonder if I should hook a larger funnel to the opening so that more air gets forced in. Or I could hook a blower up. And some propane or a small O2

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time to fit a proper filter!

2013-10-07 Thread Fmiser
clay wrote: All this chatter about filters and intake, I just had enlightenment. Looking at the way the intake is built on the early R107, the opening is a bit smaller than the rest of the cone leading to the cleaner. Incoming air, warm or not, would be sucked into the cone, where it

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time to fit a proper filter!

2013-10-07 Thread Peter Frederick
It's actually there to increase the velocity, not cool the air. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time to fit a proper filter!

2013-10-07 Thread clay
so any air temp differential is negated by the ignition process? Summer v. Winter air temp makes a difference? Is the expansion temp Delta only 4 or 5 degree? It sounded like a good theory clay On Oct 7, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Fmiser wrote: clay wrote: All this chatter about filters and

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time to fit a proper filter!

2013-10-07 Thread Peter Frederick
What counts is charge density -- the actual pressure in the cylinder at the ignition point. Since there is a significant pressure drop through the intake, the faster the air is moving as it goes through the air filter, the more will be delivered to the cylinders. Sticking a pipe with lots

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time to fit a proper filter!

2013-10-07 Thread clay
Ahhh. Get a nice 12v leaf blower hooked to the intake! clay On Oct 7, 2013, at 4:59 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: What counts is charge density -- the actual pressure in the cylinder at the ignition point. Since there is a significant pressure drop through the intake, the faster the air is

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time to fit a proper filter!

2013-10-07 Thread Peter Frederick
Or a nice blower, eh? Turbochargers are great! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time to fit a proper filter!

2013-10-07 Thread Craig
On Mon, 7 Oct 2013 21:29:15 -0500 Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Or a nice blower, eh? Turbochargers are great! A 4.5 liter engine at 5500 RPM and full throttle will require 4.5 liter5500 rev 1 ft^3ft^3 - x -- x - = 437 --

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time to fit a proper filter!

2013-10-07 Thread Peter Frederick
Which is why my brother and I fall down laughing every time we see a 950 cfm carburetor on a Chevy 350. They usually throw a rod above 4500 rpm and can barely manage 450 cfm, if you have mechanical secondaries they won't run worth a hoot. Very few production V8s will spin as fast as a

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time to fit a proper filter!

2013-10-07 Thread clay
Might have to look at snagging one of the toyota super chargers. Or a window fan clay On Oct 7, 2013, at 7:44 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Which is why my brother and I fall down laughing every time we see a 950 cfm carburetor on a Chevy 350. They usually throw a rod above 4500 rpm and can

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time to fit a proper filter!

2013-10-07 Thread Fmiser
clay wrote: so any air temp differential is negated by the ignition process? Yes, or no. If you just expand the air, you have shifted energy from phase of the air to another. It requires something like an intercooler that takes the heat from the intake air and moves it to ambient air.

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time to fit a proper filter!

2013-10-07 Thread Fmiser
Peter Frederick wrote: Or a nice blower, eh? Turbochargers are great! Craig wrote: A 4.5 liter engine at 5500 RPM and full throttle will require 4.5 liter5500 rev 1 ft^3ft^3 - x -- x - = 437 -- 2 revmin

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time to fit a proper filter!

2013-10-07 Thread Craig
On Mon, 7 Oct 2013 22:01:33 -0500 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: Or a nice blower, eh? Turbochargers are great! Craig wrote: A 4.5 liter engine at 5500 RPM and full throttle will require 4.5 liter5500 rev 1 ft^3ft^3

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time to fit a proper filter!

2013-10-07 Thread clay
I saw this thing stuffed into a TR 4 inline six this weekend http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/pts/4116296830.html clay On Oct 7, 2013, at 7:53 PM, clay wrote: Might have to look at snagging one of the toyota super chargers. Or a window fan clay On Oct 7, 2013, at 7:44 PM, Peter

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time to fit a proper filter!

2013-10-07 Thread Gerry Archer
Why not one of those big middle-of-the-hood ram air scoops that you have to crane your neck to see over? That would look real sporty on your Mercedes. Gerry Might have to look at snagging one of the toyota super chargers. Or a window fan clay On Oct 7, 2013, at 7:44 PM, Peter Frederick

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time to fit a proper filter!

2013-10-07 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Oct 7, 2013 7:54 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Might have to look at snagging one of the toyota super chargers. Watch the P'n'P for one of the ubiquitous Eaton M90 blowers off a GM 3.8-liter V-6? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time!

2013-10-06 Thread Mitch Haley
m...@voyager.net wrote: I asked him about the Becker and the 'factory cold air intake system'. Should be interesting to see if he publishes my question and his answer. I got a reply from him, and he published it on eBay: http://search.ebay.com/251351651811 Q: Do you still have the factory

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time!

2013-10-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So rather than sucking in colder outside air from the fender intake we suck hot engine air in from under the hood. Brilliant Sent from my iPhone On Oct 6, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: m...@voyager.net wrote: I asked him about the Becker and the 'factory cold air

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time to fit a proper filter!

2013-10-06 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Yeah it has to be asked what the thinking is behind using these types of air filters. I believe they where developed for racing car application and then found their way into road going cars. Sure MB developed their air intake systems for the worst possible scenarios and are not as free flowing

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time to fit a proper filter!

2013-10-06 Thread Peter Frederick
More to the point, the KN was developed for DIRT TRACK racing, where there is alway an enormous amount of dust. Wash and re-oil is quick, cheap, and they don't plug up as bad as paper filters. There are no other advantages, as has been demonstrated numerous times. In most cases, when you

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time to fit a proper filter!

2013-10-06 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik and Fay wrote: Then there is the question of a spoiler on a Diesel. Hmmnh hammer Diesel. http://spoki.tvnet.lv/automoto/AMG-300E-60-Hammer-W124/130880 I almost bought a Hammer from Alain Vanhollebeke 8 years ago. http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/1043438-post26.html I

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time to fit a proper filter!

2013-10-06 Thread clay
All this chatter about filters and intake, I just had enlightenment. Looking at the way the intake is built on the early R107, the opening is a bit smaller than the rest of the cone leading to the cleaner. Incoming air, warm or not, would be sucked into the cone, where it would expand, cooling

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time!

2013-10-05 Thread mlh
Ugh...Well, someone had time to black out the grill, time to install aftermarket wheels, time to install a spoiler, time to install clear marker lights time to install an aftermarket warm air intake (not sure how they figure air drawn from under the hood is cooler). Yep, it's far enough

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time!

2013-10-05 Thread Curt Raymond
as much power and people have proven it good up to 200hp... -Curt Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2013 06:07:17 -0400 (EDT) From: m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time! Message-ID:     61025.107.194.192.215.1380967637.squir...@webmail.core.com

Re: [MBZ] Just ain't got time!

2013-10-05 Thread WILTON
'Sure glad I'm not in a mood to want it. Not only is it black, it's had all that other ridiculous crap done to it. Wilton - Original Message - From: Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 12:51 AM Subject: [MBZ] Just ain't got time

[MBZ] Just ain't got time!

2013-10-04 Thread Chris James
Ugh...Well, someone had time to black out the grill, time to install aftermarket wheels, time to install a spoiler, time to install clear marker lights time to install an aftermarket warm air intake (not sure how they figure air drawn from under the hood is cooler). But...to have new ball