Re: [MBZ] Kids not listening such as those on Fakebook

2019-07-09 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Kolledge is a ripoff. Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote on 7/7/19 6:35 PM: The rate of rise in price is amazing. 25 years ago a friend of mine started at BU for around $28k annually. At the time it was the 3rd most expensive school in the nation... Curt

Re: [MBZ] Kids not listening such as those on Fakebook

2019-07-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The rate of rise in price is amazing. 25 years ago a friend of mine started at BU for around $28k annually. At the time it was the 3rd most expensive school in the nation... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 8:49 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote: #1 boy

Re: [MBZ] Kids not listening such as those on Fakebook

2019-07-01 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
#1 boy attended a state school out of state with rebate on tuition for attending a school part of a multi-state sharing program (we offer you lower tuition so you offer our kids lower than out of state deal). Annual cost was about $22k. #2 boy attends private institution at $65k per annum.

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2019-06-29 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Yup!  Right now CNC programming, robotics etc and building trades (includes operating engineers) kick the buts of probably 80-90% of college degrees. CNC/robotics offer advancement paths beyond mastery by working for mfgrs/integrators. Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 6/29/19 7:03 AM: Put

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2019-06-29 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Put another way, make it into a business case. Inputs: total cost of degree in a chosen field, and average wage in that field. Compare colleges based on (a) the percentage of students who are employed in their chosen field after graduation, and (b) cost of the degree vs. average wage. What

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2019-06-28 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
It would be east to make the case that "higher education" with government monopoly student loans is an effective way to enslave younger generations. > clay wrote: > > Higher education is being wasted ... They do not expand on the knowledge > base in any appreciable manner. Just seem to build a

Re: [MBZ] Kids not listening such as those on Fakebook

2019-06-28 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
It would be east to make the case that "higher education" with government monopoly student loans is an effective way to enslave younger generations. > clay wrote: > > Higher education is being wasted ... They do not expand on the knowledge > base in any appreciable manner. Just seem to build a

Re: [MBZ] Kids not listening such as those on Fakebook

2019-06-28 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
1987, Stanford, PhD in Electrical Engineering. > -Original Message- > 1 question- when was,the last time you were,on a,college or university > campus? > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 8:12 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >

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2019-06-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
We spent 20+ years there the last time.  Corruption is rampant. Clay is right.  Mike Rowe is right.  Rick is right.   College is gummit sponsored robbery for most kids.  Hard sciences, medicos, Industrial Technology and similar, and engineering, yes.  Pretty much everything else is a waste.

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2019-06-28 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
1 question- when was,the last time you were,on a,college or university campus? Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 8:12 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Higher education is being wasted on making and keeping the unemployable > illiterati population

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2019-06-28 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
clay wrote: > Higher education is being wasted ... They do not expand on the knowledge base > in any appreciable manner. Just seem to build a larger class of > indoctrination spewers who pollute the minds of people who could be making > their nations great once more, or still. > That is

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2019-06-27 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
CNC operators/techs and robot programmers/service techs will do well. The community college here is trying to create them for the big manufacturing companies that are being lured here by no unions and hefty tax giveaways but the raw material is lacking among the local populace. --FT Sent from

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2019-06-27 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
Higher education is being wasted on making and keeping the unemployable illiterati population expand so that college teachers can keep raking in a cheque. They do not expand on the knowledge base in any appreciable manner. Just seem to build a larger class of indoctrination spewers who

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2019-06-27 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I was at a KPMG conference in the late '80's where I heard one speaker proclaiming the value in hiring English, History, etc. majors for their critical thing and writing skills - the rest they would teach them. Seems business school didn't provide the right mix of skills for them. I don't know

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2019-06-27 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
College makes sense for doctors, engineers, architects, etc. But IMO, very few people need a BA ( at least very few compared to the number now enrolled). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe

Re: [MBZ] Kids not listening such as those on Fakebook

2019-06-27 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
I got fluffy after she put a ring on me. But I was doing the cooking, so my own fault. SWMBA remains rail thin even after popping out two kids. There are a few gals that #1 boy knows who did not need a ring to plump up. They nailed down a fella and he had employment, the gals were “finding

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2019-06-27 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
This morning read an article from BBC about how Frod is cashing out 12k employees ahead of brexit. The japanese are also chatting with the brits on how to keep making cars there instead of just installing robots. There are a great number of jobs that will be automated. SWMBA and her legal

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2019-06-27 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
He might find that he too puts on weight. Friends of  ours back in highschool got married and put on about 40 pounds in the first few months. I don't think she did. On 27/06/2019 2:58 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: Tell him to put his gf on the scales and see what she tips it at today. 

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2019-06-27 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 27/06/2019 1:44 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Choices: Learn a trade, be in demand, work a trade that is totally portable to any part of the country, earn a high income, never have student debt, get paid while you learn as an apprentice. or Go to college, struggle to "find yourself" while

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2019-06-27 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Well yeah there’s that too --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jun 27, 2019, at 4:09 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > Hmm - I've never seen that play out in real life. The girl gets heavier > after he impregnates her …. > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 2:58 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < >

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2019-06-27 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Hmm - I've never seen that play out in real life. The girl gets heavier after he impregnates her …. On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 2:58 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Tell him to put his gf on the scales and see what she tips it at today. > I guarantee you if they move

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2019-06-27 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Tell him to put his gf on the scales and see what she tips it at today.  I guarantee you if they move in together she will be 40lb more by this time next year having realized she has caught the boy and does not need to keep herself in good trim.  The boy will then be miserable as she will be

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2019-06-27 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Choices: Learn a trade, be in demand, work a trade that is totally portable to any part of the country, earn a high income, never have student debt, get paid while you learn as an apprentice. or Go to college, struggle to "find yourself" while incurring huge student debt, have to pay off that

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2019-06-27 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
You should check out Mike Rowe's stuff.  He has a foundation that is helping people become tradespeople, recognizing that college isn't for everyone, there are jobs going begging, and the pay is pretty good. --FT On 6/27/19 2:21 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: Heh. Did the same with the

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2019-06-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On June 27, 2019 at 2:21 PM Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > > > Heh. Did the same with the eldest. He’s currently in trade school learning to > be a plumber. I told him if he worked hard and didn’t do anything stupid he > would end up making more than I do. A successful 'one man and a truck'

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2019-06-27 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Heh. Did the same with the eldest. He’s currently in trade school learning to be a plumber. I told him if he worked hard and didn’t do anything stupid he would end up making more than I do. -D > On Jun 27, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes > wrote: > > Grin and bear it. We were

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2019-06-27 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
Grin and bear it. We were idiots of the same caliber at that age. I finally was able to get through to #1 boy that being a wage slave was not a reliable way to make a living. He decided that maybe I might be correct and has taken the first steps (getting hired) to becoming an electrician.

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2019-06-26 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 21:45:54 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Nope. It’s a systemic thing that all generations suffer from. We all > thought our parents were idiots. When a kid goes off to college he knows everything and is amazed at how stupid his father is. When he comes back after

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2019-06-26 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
"Get out. You already know everything, except how to listen. When you finally learn that skill, come back, I have some things to teach you." Quote my Father, at the beginning of my enrollment at the school of life, where I graduated "Lauda Cum Hardway" On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 6:57 PM Kaleb C.

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2019-06-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well I am thinking I listened to advice, maybe I didn't and I am just remembering it wrong. On 6/26/2019 8:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Nope. It’s a systemic thing that all generations suffer from. We all thought our parents were idiots. I have said that the word “STUPID” is visible

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2019-06-26 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Our second daughter did admit at around 38 years of age that we were right on almost everything. Our youngest, who watched and learned from the mistakes of those who went before him, has not been nearly as bad as his sisters were. On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 8:46 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <

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2019-06-26 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
No, I think it's nearly a universal experience with all kids that age, regardless of time frame. On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 8:38 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It just dawned on me. Just like the morons on the 123 fakebook group > think they know everything and

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2019-06-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Nope. It’s a systemic thing that all generations suffer from. We all thought our parents were idiots. I have said that the word “STUPID” is visible on my forehead to them and them only. As they age and become a little “smarter”, that “STUPID” begins to fade. For one of my kids it’s pretty much

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2019-06-26 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
When he moves out and has a girl on him about stuff all the time he’ll either come crawling back or wise up --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jun 26, 2019, at 9:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > It just dawned on me. Just like the morons on the 123 fakebook group think > they

[MBZ] Kids not listening such as those on Fakebook

2019-06-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It just dawned on me.  Just like the morons on the 123 fakebook group think they know everything and will not listen to advise, it is the exact same thing with the 21 year old kid who just graduated from college with an associates.  So he has this girlfriend and they have decided they want to