Kolledge is a ripoff.
Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote on 7/7/19 6:35 PM:
The rate of rise in price is amazing. 25 years ago a friend of mine started at
BU for around $28k annually. At the time it was the 3rd most expensive school
in the nation...
Curt
The rate of rise in price is amazing. 25 years ago a friend of mine started at
BU for around $28k annually. At the time it was the 3rd most expensive school
in the nation...
Curt
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On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 8:49 PM, Clay Monroe via
Mercedes wrote: #1 boy
#1 boy attended a state school out of state with rebate on tuition for
attending a school part of a multi-state sharing program (we offer you lower
tuition so you offer our kids lower than out of state deal). Annual cost was
about $22k. #2 boy attends private institution at $65k per annum.
Yup! Right now CNC programming, robotics etc and building trades
(includes operating engineers) kick the buts of probably 80-90% of
college degrees. CNC/robotics offer advancement paths beyond mastery by
working for mfgrs/integrators.
Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 6/29/19 7:03 AM:
Put
Put another way, make it into a business case. Inputs: total cost of degree in
a chosen field, and average wage in that field. Compare colleges based on (a)
the percentage of students who are employed in their chosen field after
graduation, and (b) cost of the degree vs. average wage. What
It would be east to make the case that "higher education" with government
monopoly student loans is an effective way to enslave younger generations.
> clay wrote:
> > Higher education is being wasted ... They do not expand on the knowledge
> base in any appreciable manner. Just seem to build a
It would be east to make the case that "higher education" with government
monopoly student loans is an effective way to enslave younger generations.
> clay wrote:
> > Higher education is being wasted ... They do not expand on the knowledge
> base in any appreciable manner. Just seem to build a
1987, Stanford, PhD in Electrical Engineering.
> -Original Message-
> 1 question- when was,the last time you were,on a,college or university
> campus?
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 8:12 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
We spent 20+ years there the last time. Corruption is rampant.
Clay is right. Mike Rowe is right. Rick is right. College is gummit
sponsored robbery for most kids. Hard sciences, medicos, Industrial
Technology and similar, and engineering, yes. Pretty much everything
else is a waste.
1 question- when was,the last time you were,on a,college or university
campus?
Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 8:12 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Higher education is being wasted on making and keeping the unemployable
> illiterati population
clay wrote:
> Higher education is being wasted ... They do not expand on the knowledge base
> in any appreciable manner. Just seem to build a larger class of
> indoctrination spewers who pollute the minds of people who could be making
> their nations great once more, or still.
>
That is
CNC operators/techs and robot programmers/service techs will do well. The
community college here is trying to create them for the big manufacturing
companies that are being lured here by no unions and hefty tax giveaways but
the raw material is lacking among the local populace.
--FT
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Higher education is being wasted on making and keeping the unemployable
illiterati population expand so that college teachers can keep raking in a
cheque. They do not expand on the knowledge base in any appreciable manner.
Just seem to build a larger class of indoctrination spewers who
I was at a KPMG conference in the late '80's where I heard one speaker
proclaiming the value in hiring English, History, etc. majors for their
critical thing and writing skills - the rest they would teach them. Seems
business school didn't provide the right mix of skills for them. I don't
know
College makes sense for doctors, engineers, architects, etc. But IMO, very few
people need a BA ( at least very few compared to the number now enrolled).
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I got fluffy after she put a ring on me. But I was doing the cooking, so my
own fault. SWMBA remains rail thin even after popping out two kids.
There are a few gals that #1 boy knows who did not need a ring to plump up.
They nailed down a fella and he had employment, the gals were “finding
This morning read an article from BBC about how Frod is cashing out 12k
employees ahead of brexit. The japanese are also chatting with the brits on
how to keep making cars there instead of just installing robots. There are a
great number of jobs that will be automated. SWMBA and her legal
He might find that he too puts on weight. Friends of ours back in
highschool got married and put on about 40 pounds in the first few
months. I don't think she did.
On 27/06/2019 2:58 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
Tell him to put his gf on the scales and see what she tips it at
today.
On 27/06/2019 1:44 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
Choices:
Learn a trade, be in demand, work a trade that is totally portable to any
part of the country, earn a high income, never have student debt, get paid
while you learn as an apprentice.
or
Go to college, struggle to "find yourself" while
Well yeah there’s that too
--FT
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> On Jun 27, 2019, at 4:09 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Hmm - I've never seen that play out in real life. The girl gets heavier
> after he impregnates her ….
>
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 2:58 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>
Hmm - I've never seen that play out in real life. The girl gets heavier
after he impregnates her ….
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 2:58 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Tell him to put his gf on the scales and see what she tips it at today.
> I guarantee you if they move
Tell him to put his gf on the scales and see what she tips it at today.
I guarantee you if they move in together she will be 40lb more by this
time next year having realized she has caught the boy and does not need
to keep herself in good trim. The boy will then be miserable as she
will be
Choices:
Learn a trade, be in demand, work a trade that is totally portable to any
part of the country, earn a high income, never have student debt, get paid
while you learn as an apprentice.
or
Go to college, struggle to "find yourself" while incurring huge student
debt, have to pay off that
You should check out Mike Rowe's stuff. He has a foundation that is
helping people become tradespeople, recognizing that college isn't for
everyone, there are jobs going begging, and the pay is pretty good.
--FT
On 6/27/19 2:21 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
Heh. Did the same with the
> On June 27, 2019 at 2:21 PM Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>
>
> Heh. Did the same with the eldest. He’s currently in trade school learning to
> be a plumber. I told him if he worked hard and didn’t do anything stupid he
> would end up making more than I do.
A successful 'one man and a truck'
Heh. Did the same with the eldest. He’s currently in trade school learning to
be a plumber. I told him if he worked hard and didn’t do anything stupid he
would end up making more than I do.
-D
> On Jun 27, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Grin and bear it. We were
Grin and bear it. We were idiots of the same caliber at that age.
I finally was able to get through to #1 boy that being a wage slave was not a
reliable way to make a living. He decided that maybe I might be correct and
has taken the first steps (getting hired) to becoming an electrician.
On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 21:45:54 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
wrote:
> Nope. It’s a systemic thing that all generations suffer from. We all
> thought our parents were idiots.
When a kid goes off to college he knows everything and is amazed at how
stupid his father is.
When he comes back after
"Get out. You already know everything, except how to listen. When you
finally learn that skill, come back, I have some things to teach you."
Quote my Father, at the beginning of my enrollment at the school of life,
where I graduated "Lauda Cum Hardway"
On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 6:57 PM Kaleb C.
Well I am thinking I listened to advice, maybe I didn't and I am just
remembering it wrong.
On 6/26/2019 8:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Nope. It’s a systemic thing that all generations suffer from. We all thought
our parents were idiots.
I have said that the word “STUPID” is visible
Our second daughter did admit at around 38 years of age that we were right
on almost everything. Our youngest, who watched and learned from the
mistakes of those who went before him, has not been nearly as bad as his
sisters were.
On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 8:46 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
No, I think it's nearly a universal experience with all kids that age,
regardless of time frame.
On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 8:38 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> It just dawned on me. Just like the morons on the 123 fakebook group
> think they know everything and
Nope. It’s a systemic thing that all generations suffer from. We all thought
our parents were idiots.
I have said that the word “STUPID” is visible on my forehead to them and them
only. As they age and become a little “smarter”, that “STUPID” begins to fade.
For one of my kids it’s pretty much
When he moves out and has a girl on him about stuff all the time he’ll either
come crawling back or wise up
--FT
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> On Jun 26, 2019, at 9:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> It just dawned on me. Just like the morons on the 123 fakebook group think
> they
It just dawned on me. Just like the morons on the 123 fakebook group
think they know everything and will not listen to advise, it is the
exact same thing with the 21 year old kid who just graduated from
college with an associates. So he has this girlfriend and they have
decided they want to
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