Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-16 Thread John Reames
the way I've done it. Wilton - Original Message - From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers I appreciate my old tools. I had to put a deadbolt in a door

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-15 Thread John Reames
I appreciate my old tools. I had to put a deadbolt in a door (they weren't pre-bored in the 50's)... Got out the old brace and some bits... The holes were bored and the tools away faster than you could get out the drill and hole saws... No jigs needed either. I picked up the old chisels which

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-15 Thread John Reames
Just make sure when you buy a crapsman tool that it is one of the (fewer every day) tools that carries the warranty. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 13, 2010, at 13:49, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: E M pokieba...@gmail.com

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-15 Thread John Reames
...@gmail.com wrote: From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, November 13, 2010, 1:33 PM Garage sales are often a good place to find old tools too. Often good quality, and around here, they tend

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-15 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Craftsman is getting crapy for sure... Had a hacksaw finally fracture the handle off a while back, went to swap it out, the new one was half plastic with pot metal... Needless to say the old one was repaired instead. Walt On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 5:17 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-15 Thread WILTON
That's the way I've done it. Wilton - Original Message - From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers I appreciate my old tools. I had to put a deadbolt

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-15 Thread Dieselhead
I have not found a snears that would replace a broken crapsman tool in 30 years. I still have a broken tap handle that says crapsman on it , and despite trying to exchange it in various parts of the country, they tell me it is not covered. BTW, it broke the first or second time I used it

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-15 Thread OK Don
Must be different there - this year I've Sears replace Craftsman tools without question. One 3/8 ratchet handle was found on the road with obvious signs of having been hit and run over several times. Not a question, not even why I was returning it. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Dieselhead

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-15 Thread Greg Fiorentino
To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers Must be different there - this year I've Sears replace Craftsman tools without question. One 3/8 ratchet handle was found on the road with obvious signs of having been hit and run over several times. Not a question, not even why I

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-15 Thread Dieselhead
. A brace and bit moves a lot of wood quickly. That's the way I've done it. Wilton - Original Message - From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers I

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-15 Thread Dieselhead
Of OK Don Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 5:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers Must be different there - this year I've Sears replace Craftsman tools without question. One 3/8 ratchet handle was found on the road with obvious signs of having been hit and run over

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-15 Thread Dieselhead
I'll mail you my crap so you can get it exchanged for me. I have tried in several states, but not OK. Must be different there - this year I've Sears replace Craftsman tools without question. One 3/8 ratchet handle was found on the road with obvious signs of having been hit and run over

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-15 Thread Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers Message-ID:     aanlktikpcn4p0y2qryhrfceezemfe8ijmyoxfb_bp...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ed wrote: Nothing beats a well made quality item. ?Justify buying quality anyway you have to, even if you have to lie to yourself hee hee

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-13 Thread Allan Streib
E M pokieba...@gmail.com writes: My neighbour did the brakes on his minivan at the same with, with factory dealer rotors, which were labeled on the factory box, made in China. hee hee. As were the originals, most likely. Allan -- 1983 300D ___

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers now china products now salmon

2010-11-13 Thread Rich Thomas
Yesterday at Costco I got some fish. Farm raised steelhead in Chile. It is pretty tasty. Anyway, they also had some Atlantic salmon farm-raised in Chile. Think about that. --R On 11/13/10 12:55 AM, John Freer wrote: Bought some salmon the other day that was labeled product of

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-13 Thread Dieselhead
I made a CLT of sorts for older Diesels with loop GPs from an old GP. I punched out the center, and put an air line on it somehow. then a pigtail to the airhose. Pull all the GPs, put the engine at tdc. You have the choice of two cylinders, 50/50 of being right. Once you find which is tdc

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers now china products now salmon

2010-11-13 Thread LWB250
. Dan --- On Sat, 11/13/10, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers now china products now salmon To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, November 13, 2010

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers now china products

2010-11-13 Thread Dieselhead
I needed to buy a starter switch (manual pushbutton with two terminal posts for bat. cables on the back) this is similar to the foot starter switch used on cars/trucks in the late 40s and early 50s after the mechanical linkage went out, and before the starter relay became vogue. The switch is

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers now china products

2010-11-13 Thread Mountain Man
Dieselhead wrote: I'd rather buy HF tools than pay made in USA prices for chinee junk. At least HF charges made in china proces for most of their stuff instead of made in USA prices for chinee junk. The issue is *much* larger than price alone. That is the issue we need to grasp. Now, do we

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-13 Thread Mountain Man
Ed wrote: Nothing beats a well made quality item.  Justify buying quality anyway you have to, even if you have to lie to yourself hee hee, but never settle for junk.  Life it too short. That's why we drive Mercedes, right?!?  ;-) And, while the issue is about china made stuff - it is *only*

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-13 Thread Mountain Man
Ed wrote: Good luck in finding the tool you need, and the parts at the right price and quality for you. I still have tools that I use - well, I don't do much work anymore since my son works everyday on cars and offers to do my work, across the street. I bought tools at a pawn shop in

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers now china products

2010-11-13 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Mountain Man Sent: Sat 11/13/2010 11:25 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers now china products Dieselhead wrote: I'd rather buy HF tools than pay made in USA prices for chinee junk. At least HF charges made in china proces for most

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-13 Thread E M
Garage sales are often a good place to find old tools too. Often good quality, and around here, they tend not to be the items people run to first. I went to buy some Craftsman tools a few years back, as I've heard they are good quality, and US made. Every tool I picked up in the store, said

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-13 Thread Allan Streib
Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com writes: And, while the issue is about china made stuff - it is *only* because *all* china stuff is cheap. Someone needs to force a china manufacturer to make high quality tools and blast the HF market to cheap-dom. However, nobody will push any china

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-13 Thread Allan Streib
E M pokieba...@gmail.com writes: I went to buy some Craftsman tools a few years back, as I've heard they are good quality, and US made. Every tool I picked up in the store, said made in china on it. No, I didn't buy them. Asked the guy what was with all the made in china stuff? He said,

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers now china products

2010-11-13 Thread Mountain Man
Max wrote: In other words, consumers didn't drive manufacturers out of business, government regulations and taxes did. I don't know about that, really. We have been trained to buy on price, hence, price = god for over 40 years. Then when price stressed us to buy china rather than USA - we did

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-13 Thread Craig
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 13:49:26 -0500 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Craftsman are not what they used to be. My dad had some Craftsman tools that I still use. Every Craftsman tool that I've broken has been one I bought more recently. I bought sets of Craftsman screw drivers and

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-13 Thread LWB250
right for proper leverage, you name it. Dan --- On Sat, 11/13/10, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, November 13, 2010, 1:33 PM Garage sales are often a good

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-13 Thread Craig
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:36:01 -0800 (PST) LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: The first Hazet wrench I owned was a combination wrench that has a hex bit in one end for differential/transmission drain plugs and a closed end wrench on the other for oil pan drain plugs. The first time I held this

[MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-12 Thread Fred Moir
Hi, all. HF is on the list for tomorrow, mostly for a leak-down tester P/N 94190. I can't see any reason to buy a $100+ unit when this one is $40. Any caveats or comments? TIA Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-12 Thread Mountain Man
Fred wrote: Any caveats or comments? China? - isn't all HF stuff China? I don't buy china - price cannot be the only god in our shopping experience. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-12 Thread Rick Knoble
Some Harbor Freight stuff is made in Taiwan. Those items seem to be of a much higher quality than the Hecho En China stuff. Rick China? - isn't all HF stuff China? I don't buy china - price cannot be the only god in our shopping experience. mao

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-12 Thread Fred Moir
Mountain Man, et al. Probably Chinese of one political stripe or other. The net search turned up a lot of leak-down testers, a lot of clones and other types. The least expensive US made was $139.95, physically identical to the HF one. So, either it is a clone, or it is a Chinese model

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-12 Thread Walt Zarnoch
I say use HF. Lifetime waranty, and ok for using 3 or so times. Walt, who is ok with using sub-par tools as long as they function. On Nov 12, 2010 10:36 PM, Fred Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: Mountain Man, et al. Probably Chinese of one political stripe or other. The net search turned up a

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-12 Thread Mountain Man
Fred wrote: We are an in an international commercial war and the good old US of A is asleep. You are correct in that sentiment. Hence, I try to do without any encouragement toward the trade deficit. Perhaps you can find a used one on CL or borrow one from the parts store or local garage? My

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-12 Thread E M
Maybe something to think about, if you have several friends who are also interested in tinkering on cars, is to pool your money, and buy a good US or Euro made tool to share, if it's one none of you will use a lot or need to have in your toolbox at all times. It's not that I don't own some things

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-12 Thread E M
I agree with much of what you say. I feel for every dollar spent on a US made product, from a US owned company, from sourced domestic materials if possible; is making your country one dollar stronger. Every time a dollar is spent on a product from a third world country, we are contributing to

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-12 Thread Walt Zarnoch
On my budget, I'd rather skimp and get made in random country low-price tools I'll use a few times, and have funding for quality parts, than get cheap parts because I just spent a boatload on a tool I'll use 3 times. I detest made in random country, but sadly USA seems to be putting so much

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

2010-11-12 Thread E M
If you don't need the tool tomorrow, see what you can find on the used market. You can probably find a good used tool, for the same or less money, than the new toss away tool. I think there are some excellent made in America parts for our cars, if you want those over factory original. You may

Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers now china products

2010-11-12 Thread John Freer
Bought some salmon the other day that was labeled product of Canadagreat. Opened the box and it said processed in Chinahuh? Did some research and found out that the salmon is caught just inside the three mile limit and sold to the chinese processing vessels just outside the three mile