Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sin binned

2011-10-21 Thread Allan Streib
Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au writes: And why would Daimler remove someone who is good at their job and may be hard to replace, they could have asked Lieb to refund the money and given him a stern talking to, unless he was warned to be very careful in regards to using company funds.

Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sin binned

2011-10-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: The WSJ report said the company was operating with extreme sensitivity to proper expense accounting after reaching a truce of sorts with the USA over bribes paid in eastern europe. Why the USA would care, or have any authority over MB paying bribes in eastern europe was not

Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sinned

2011-10-21 Thread rogerhga
Allan, Jim, I worked for an oil company in the 70's when our gov't passed a law making it illegal to bribe foreign officials in order to get business. This oil company ran afoul of the law for bribing the oil minister in Nigeria to do business. Now if anyone cared to look, you didn't do

Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sinned

2011-10-21 Thread Dan Penoff
A common practice in many countries, too, and just second or third world ones. In many Asian countries it is not uncommon for the guest to bring a gift for the host. When I did business in Japan I kept my local liquor store quite busy stocking Johnny Walker Black for my trips. Dan Sent from

Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sinned

2011-10-21 Thread Rich Thomas
I went to Tokyo once with a coupla colleagues, one night they decided they wanted some booze so we all went looking fo a likka sto, bought some Jack Daniels that ended up being cheaper than it was back home in Taxachussetts. Go figure. --R On 10/21/11 2:25 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: A common

Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sin binned

2011-10-21 Thread Peter Hertzing
That about covers it. And these foreign bribes are significantly different then meals, trips and campaign donations by Political actions committees who would never consider trying to influence a member of government with said gifts. Just Saying. On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Mitch Haley

Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sin binned

2011-10-21 Thread Dieselhead
If it was MBUSI, then DOJ has a say, because it is a US COMPANY I can see where they would have to make certain accommodations to get ML, R and other US made vehicles into the eastern bloc countries. The WSJ report said the company was operating with extreme sensitivity to proper expense

Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned

2011-10-20 Thread glenn brown
I got a kick out of the statement He was well-liked by dealers who he persuaded to invest more than US$1bn in recent years to upgrade their showrooms relating to the dismissal of Ernst Lieb as CEO of Mercedes-Benz USA as dealers were informed in the mid-late '90s to upgrade their showrooms or

Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned

2011-10-20 Thread Gerry Archer
Maybe the new US CEO will bring over some diesel A series. (Not a good bet.) Gerry '83 300D '83 240D From: glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com I got a kick out of the statement He was well-liked by dealers who he persuaded to invest more than US$1bn in recent years to upgrade their showrooms

Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned

2011-10-20 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Apparently he was great for the company. Might not have been a wise move to fire the guy. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 20, 2011, at 10:43 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Maybe the new US CEO will bring over some diesel A series. (Not a good bet.) Gerry '83 300D '83 240D From:

Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned

2011-10-20 Thread Mitch Haley
Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Apparently he was great for the company. Might not have been a wise move to fire the guy. You used company funds to fix the house that we bought you with company funds doesn't sound like much of an offense. Does he own the house now, or does MBUSA own it? That bit

Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned

2011-10-20 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I don't think he should have used company funds for any of those things. He certainly deserved to be fired but I'm still not sure that ultimately it was a good thing for the company. MB is now ahead of Lexus (I really hate Lexus) and number one in luxury car sales probably at least in part due

Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sin binned

2011-10-20 Thread Hendrik Fay
Well at this stage it's all rumours and hearsay but I think there is more to this than a couple of dodgy expenses. This fella is obviously pretty smart and would know what the go is, in regards to expenses and ethical standards. Why would he risk losing his job over a few thousand dollars? The

Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sin binned

2011-10-20 Thread G Mann
In the corporate world, anyone can and will be thrown under the bus for any reason once the decision is made. We hear information given, not facts behind the scene. Somewhere, somehow, Lieb pushed the wrong set of personal buttons and he is out. Next !! On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Hendrik

[MBZ] MB's US CEO canned

2011-10-19 Thread RELNGSON
US: Mercedes CEO fired in shock move In a move described by the US press as “befuddling” Daimler has suddenly fired the CEO of its Mercedes-Benz USA operations, Ernst Lieb. The Detroit Bureau called the move “striking and unexpected” as Lieb was relieved of his duties as CEO effective

Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned

2011-10-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Shades of Mark Hurd. Perhaps Daimler doesn't approve of his sex partner? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned

2011-10-19 Thread Dieselhead
Thanks for the info Roger! Life in the corporate world never relates to common sense. Daimler is run by marketing, MBAs and such. Why would we expect it to be run like Daimler, Benz, or Daimler Benz of 1886 until 1986? (Which happens to coincide with the last durable, great cars, 124 and

Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned

2011-10-19 Thread Rich Thomas
Dipping his pen in the company inkwell? --R On 10/19/11 10:15 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: Daimler spokesman Han Tjan would not give a reason for Lieb's departure, adding that he remains with the company in an unspecified role. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com