Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-08 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> SWMBA got mad at me for snagging the MBP 9,2. She planned on... Certain planners get angry at any plan not their own. That's usually the source of the "A". Our MBP 9,2 was a very deliberate acquisition, specifically designed to meet quite a few criteria that aren't really on SWMBA's radar.

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-07 Thread Clay via Mercedes
The Mac Pro is/has legacy support. One of the drives is partitioned with obsolete examples of OSX, such that I support the original iPad, iPod touches and Classic iPods, as well as stuff as current as 2016. Everything is paired to that computer, which leaves the old and working iTunes able

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-07 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2020-11-07 07:26, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: Maybe I can get iToonz on this Winders 7 or 10 laptop I have and see if it will talk to these various iFōnz. I don't know about XP, but I had iTUNZ on Win7 a couple months ago. It refused to do any phone backup/restore stuff until I

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-07 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
My iFōn has not talked to a Mac computer for years. iToonz always wants the latest iOS version on everything but I have not upgraded the Mac desktop for a coupla years since whenever I have done that in the past some app or other gorks or disappears. I have an old MacBook I Rejuvenated at

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-06 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Mitch wrote: > Which brings me to why I don't leave iTunes on my computer, > Apple acting like it owns my computer too. Use a virtual machine (like VirtualBox) guest. Run it only when you need iTunes. As far as iTunes/apple is concerned, it is the only software installed on the computer.

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-06 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2020-11-06 23:34, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: There's always Windows and android (ducking) As much as I hate Google, if you could install an operating system on my iPhones that didn't behave as if Apple owned the phone instead of me, I'd be grateful. Which brings me to why I don't leave

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-06 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
There's always Windows and android (ducking) On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 10:31 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 2020-11-06 23:24, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > Can you email the audio file from the phone to another account > > accessible > > on a PC? > > > It would

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-06 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2020-11-06 23:24, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Can you email the audio file from the phone to another account accessible on a PC? It would be a waste of data, but I could do it, if I used phones for email. If only iTunes were well behaved enough to leave installed on my computer, or if

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-06 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Can you email the audio file from the phone to another account accessible on a PC? On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 9:43 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Oh, I see. > I need to reinstall the iTunes virus on my computer to have access to > the audio files, but I can access the

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-06 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Oh, I see. I need to reinstall the iTunes virus on my computer to have access to the audio files, but I can access the photos by merely plugging a lightning cable into my computer. Thanks a lot, Apple. Mitch. On 2020-11-06 22:38, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: OK, this is absolutely the

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-06 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
OK, this is absolutely the last straw. An attorney wants an audio recording I made on my iPoop. So I plug it in and browse the phone, and all that's available to the computer is Internal Storage>DCIM, which only includes photos and video. From the Audio Recorder app, I can copy the file I

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-06 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2020-11-06 21:54, dan--- via Mercedes wrote: Then how do you get apps on an iPhone? No Apple account, no App Store, right? Yep. Wanted the Tracfone app today, couldn't get it. First time I tried to install an app on any device I actually carry for a phone, and only because there's one

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-06 Thread dan--- via Mercedes
Then how do you get apps on an iPhone? No Apple account, no App Store, right? -D > On Nov 6, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > >> On 2020-11-06 16:54, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> Dude, >> It’s called “iCloud”. Set up an account for free with 5GB of storage >> and let

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-06 Thread Clay via Mercedes
I used to get jiggy with command line and Unix. Not done it for ages since setting and a slew of hackintosh boxes when 43 had the whitehouse. I no longer found it “fun” to go spelunking in hardware and stuff as much as I had back with window 286 or the Timex Sinclair clay “I think it’s

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-06 Thread Clay via Mercedes
The hotswap boot is stuck in SEA. Just toss your drive in and go. Like using the tape back ups used to be. Not happy to learn from Jim that target disk no longer functions clay “I think it’s time we stopped our cringing embarrassment about our history, about our traditions, and about our

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-06 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Are you comfortable with command-line (Terminal) stuff? Mac OS is unix under the covers. Get both machines on your home network. Determine the IP address of the new machine. Run an ssh server on the new machine. On the old machine, use scp, sftp, or rsync to copy your data to the new machine.

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-06 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Yes Just trying to find the Appstore crap that I purchased is a trial. Yesterday (not catalina) I could see all the things I ever had. Today, the interface is opaque and convoluted and shows nothing I have elsewhere. I search while looking at the applications folder, and find most of it

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I've got a cool external drive, I think its a Western Digital, that uses a base that is just the normal SATA connectors. So I can pull the base off and use it with just a bare drive if needed. -Curt On Friday, November 6, 2020, 8:25:59 PM EST, Clay via Mercedes wrote: They only

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-06 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I'm locked out of one of my iCloud accounts. Even the nice guy from Apple > support couldn't make it work again. Sounds familiar. My dad had one but I never did, and when he passed I tried to take it over so that his info wouldn't be lost. I guess it worked, eventually, but what a PITA.

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-06 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Getting our latest acquisition, a MBP 9,2 for my son's college career, brought up to date was nightmarish. We had a failing internal HD cable that was to blame for half of it, but once that was addressed Apple's new crop of script kiddies was to blame for the rest. It probably would have gone

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I'm locked out of one of my iCloud accounts. Even the nice guy from Apple support couldn't make it work again. I use my apple account so infrequently its always locked out when I need to get into it... -Curt On Friday, November 6, 2020, 7:36:03 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-06 Thread Clay via Mercedes
They only share RJ-45 and USB. After scouring interwebz, looks like removal from MB and sticking it to USB 2 cable/sata cord for hooking to MBP to cherry pick files. clay “I think it’s time we stopped our cringing embarrassment about our history, about our traditions, and about our

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-06 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2020-11-06 16:54, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Dude, It’s called “iCloud”. Set up an account for free with 5GB of storage and let it host your contacts. It will sync everything across any and all of your iCloud authenticated devices. And if I don't want iCloud? I don't even have an

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Do both have firewire or thunderbolt? Get the appropriate cable and boot one into target disk mode. That saved my bacon when my last MBP died... -Curt On Friday, November 6, 2020, 4:34:04 PM EST, Clay via Mercedes wrote: Close the loop on this post. I went with MBP 9,2, as it has

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Dude, It’s called “iCloud”. Set up an account for free with 5GB of storage and let it host your contacts. It will sync everything across any and all of your iCloud authenticated devices. -D > On Nov 6, 2020, at 4:49 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > > I feel your pain. > I merely

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-06 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I feel your pain. I merely wanted to copy my contacts list from one iPhone (iOS 13) to another (iOS 12). Did the put the phones together and let phone 1 set up phone 2. But that didn't move contacts. In fact, in the eyes of Apple, there is no excuse to ever want to copy contacts from one

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-11-06 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Close the loop on this post. I went with MBP 9,2, as it has the optical drive. The HDD is good enough for now, at 500GB. Upgrading ram to 16GB, battery has fair life left. I had intended to upgrade to 2TB hybrid drive, max ram and fresh battery, but got bogged down with trying to migrate

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-10-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
+1, every yard needs a shed and if you've already got one shed then you can just be "Two sheds". When I go to deer hunting camp in a couple weeks I get to start moving stuff from Garage 1 to garage 2. We shoulda just built garage 1 twice as big in the first place but it was already a

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-10-28 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I'm thinking a man shed/dog house, 12x16 should do it, gives a goodly amount of space.  Use SIPs for quick erection and insulated envelope, you could have it up and closed in with a day or two work.  Add a loft for a sleeping space, get a 5gal bucket with a plastic trash bag and kitty litter

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-10-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Back to the original topic: Lenovo $1200 https://slickdeals.net/f/14470007-lenovo-thinkpad-x1-carbon-i7-10510u-14-fhd-16gb-ddr3-1tb-ssd-1200-free-shipping?src=frontpage LG Gram $1100

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-10-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
My area of suburban Montgomery County Maryland outside DC is a well-known radon belt. I've lived in two different homes that had high readings. My current home has one of those evacuation systems that constantly exhaust air from the basement. On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 2:13 AM Clay via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-10-28 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Yes, there is Radon. I will stick a hose out the vent and breathe through that clay “I think it’s time we stopped our cringing embarrassment about our history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of self-recrimination and wetness.” B. Johnson

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-10-27 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 26/10/2020 9:14 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: I have been deemed incongruous with the decor. Place was purchased without consideration for addition of more than SWMBA and #2 boy, so no spare space to stake out. Guest room is now off limits to maintain client secrets. She does scamper

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-10-27 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I assume the house is insulated at ceiling level. If you closed in a bit of the attic and insulated between the rafters, it would likely heat with rising air from below. Put one of those drop down ladders in the hallway. If you can do the attic room near a gable end, you could install a window

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-10-27 Thread Clay via Mercedes
I did take a peek, it has a much smaller opening in the washroom ceiling and not heated at all unless I cuddle next to the drier vent clay “I think it’s time we stopped our cringing embarrassment about our history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-10-27 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 27/10/2020 11:18 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: I could look in to setting up a fainting lounge in the heated crawl space to keep from bonking my head on the joists. Awful dark there, and not sure outlets are down there. Maybe a slew of tuffets and giant pillows? It would be rather

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-10-27 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I could look in to setting up a fainting lounge in the heated crawl space to > keep from bonking my head on the joists. Awful dark there, and not sure > outlets are down there. Maybe a slew of tuffets and giant pillows? It would > be rather Addam’s family. Heat and space are the two

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-10-26 Thread Clay via Mercedes
The Firm used to rely upon Lenovo, but some sort of Sino Spy chips got added and IT banned them. Now it is all M$ $urface that leads to weekly calls to outsourced help desk and rapid deployment of replacement hardware, since the stuff is so bug ridden. I am out of the hackintosh loop as for

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-10-26 Thread Clay via Mercedes
I have been deemed incongruous with the decor. Place was purchased without consideration for addition of more than SWMBA and #2 boy, so no spare space to stake out. Guest room is now off limits to maintain client secrets. She does scamper away to the secure location, slamming the door, in

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-10-26 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
was a ThinkPad W530. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: October 26, 2020 10:44 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: okd...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop My daughter's who had been raised on HP enterprise class laptops - high school and college - have since

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-10-26 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
My daughter's who had been raised on HP enterprise class laptops - high school and college - have since moved to Lenovo Thinkpads and haven't looked back. That's what I would look for, and install an SSD - should last a long time. I don't know what kind of crap all the W10 users load that blows up

[MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-10-26 Thread ned kleinhenz via Mercedes
In my last job we would get new Lenovo ThinkPads every few years. I can vouch they were very rugged and had nice features for travelling engineering and business use. Except for hard drives, the hardware would never wear out. The operating systems and peripherals would just become obsolete. Of

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-10-26 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Bought 2012 MBP for college unit, specifically because it was the last mobile upgradeable device from Apple that had no reliability concerns. Non-retina, no auxiliary GPU. At the time it was the oldest thing they made that was fully supported. It has since been abandoned by Apple, but should be

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-10-25 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Lenovo ThinkPads are reputidly solid. No direct experience. Allan Clay via Mercedes writes: > The rest of the family uses winder 10. There are multiple crisis each week > with winders or the hardware going AWOL. I quit using winblows with XP when > it kacked itself somehow and refused to

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-10-25 Thread Clay via Mercedes
The rest of the family uses winder 10. There are multiple crisis each week with winders or the hardware going AWOL. I quit using winblows with XP when it kacked itself somehow and refused to allow a re-install with the factory disk. At that point I moved to Linux for that hardware, going

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-10-25 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Carp, I forgot he wanted a laptop. I haven't kept up with the newer models. I was talking to some guys at a reseller in New Zealand the other day and they were talking about an HP something but I can't remember what.My boss has an HP that looks similar to a Macbook but its plastic so its

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-10-25 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If Clay isn’t set on a Mac, I would concur that there are any number of more than adequate HPs out there that will meet or exceed his needs. I picked up an i5 17” behemoth for the wife just before Xmas last year courtesy of a sharp-eyed HP employee buddy I know. for less than $300. Even without

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-10-25 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I'm typing this on a HP G72 that I bought for $400 at Radio Shack nearly ten years ago. 3 Problems: About 4 years ago I lost two vertical lines on the display. When it first happened, moving the lid would fix it, so the problem is with the flat flex circuit going through the hinge, not the

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-10-25 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
HP Z2. Less cost, better support from the manufacturer. Everything Apple has made since the Retina MacBook is crap. I've got a touchbar mac, its the first laptop I've had that is of lesser quality than the one that preceded it. Its slower and has the worst keyboard I've ever used barring the

Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-10-25 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Depends. If you’re looking for a laptop and the related lack of weight and ease of use, I would recommend a 13” i5 or greater MacBook Air from maybe 2013-14. Beware MacBook Pros from 2014-2018, as they had well known issues with displays and keyboards. I have a 2013 13” MBA and while I rarely

[MBZ] Mac laptop

2020-10-25 Thread Clay via Mercedes
I am needing a desktop replacement, maybe, for life in GWN. Being in a small house, locked away due to WRD, portable would be better, as there is no chamber/room to actually set up my Mac Pro. Currently I depend upon a 2009 macbook that is getting long in the tooth. Hardware in SEA, yet to