Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition?

2018-02-07 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Craig sez: >‎Particularly those which are strobed at a >low rate -- when you scan your >vision across the back of the car in the >distance, you see a line of red >tail lights. Yup. RLE (RIP) went round and round over that. Older Cadillacs are particularly annoying.  Rick

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition?

2018-02-07 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 08:38:51 -0800 Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > So far LED's on the road have _not_ been a blessing to the consumer! Particularly those which are strobed at a low rate -- when you scan your vision across the back of the car in the distance, you see a line of red tail lights.

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition?

2018-02-07 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> > Car design worldwide is in the doldrums...Looks like an ugly fish with its > mouth wide open. Notice that some taillights going by on the road now look like angry clown mouths? Hideous. And they're as bright as brake lights. So far LED's on the road have _not_ been a blessing to the consume

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition?

2018-02-07 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Yabut their not going to sell their Maomobile in its current form, their going to hire European designers and engineers to redesign it for the world market as well as build other cars competitive with Merz and BMW. Car design worldwide is in the doldrums. Ever notice the front end of a Toyota

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition?

2018-02-06 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 8:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Like a flat pancake squooshed down with a spatula. > > Yeah, and the cars look dumb too. -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okieb

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition?

2018-02-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Like a flat pancake squooshed down with a spatula. On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 8:43 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > They do need help with design . . . > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 7:31 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > Renowned as the iconic vehicle used by the

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition?

2018-02-06 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
They do need help with design . . . On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 7:31 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Renowned as the iconic vehicle used by the country's leaders on important > national events, the Hongqi sedan is about to go global. > > After completing a four-day bus

[MBZ] Mercedes Competition?

2018-02-06 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Renowned as the iconic vehicle used by the country's leaders on important national events, the Hongqi sedan is about to go global. After completing a four-day business trip to Germany and Spain, Zhang Ming, director of Hongqi Design, announced that the First Automobile Works (FAW) will set up

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-29 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 08:10:08 -0600 Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: > >Friend bought one not long after they came out, and I drove it. It > >wasn't impressive. It had a stock American drive train and the > >handling was nothing special. He kept it for years and finally sold > >it. IIRC the bod

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-29 Thread redghost--- via Mercedes
iday, January 29, 2016 9:24:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition IIRC the "body" was fiberglass with stainless panels over it... I also seem to remember the engine was a GM v6 which considering the era meant something not terribly powerful. -Curt From: G Mann via Mercede

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-29 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Back years ago wasn't there some sort of Renault that got imported and co-badged with Dodge or something? anyway, this girl who was a friend of my wife was getting married in NJ or someplace, and another friend and her husband wanted to go. They had a new Renault or whatever it was and offere

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-29 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
What could go wrong? --R On 1/29/16 12:39 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: The engine is a Peugeot-Renault-Volvo (PRV) 2.85 litre V6 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery opti

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-29 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 13:32:06 -0600 Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: > >Any tears for the 1975 - 89 Chevy Chevette? > > > >I purchased one new in late 1975 for $3600, and sold it in 1982 for > >$300 prior to purchasing my very first Mercedes - a 1973 280. As they > >say, the rest is (boring) hist

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I found it quite utilitarian, and problem free for 6 years (except for surprisingly costly brake work). With the maintenance savings I was able to Move Up to a (used) Mercedes. On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Any tears for the 1975 -

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-29 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Any tears for the 1975 - 89 Chevy Chevette? I purchased one new in late 1975 for $3600, and sold it in 1982 for $300 prior to purchasing my very first Mercedes - a 1973 280. As they say, the rest is (boring) history. Time Magazine rated it among the 50 most cars! http://content.time.com/time/s

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Any tears for the 1975 - 89 Chevy Chevette? I purchased one new in late 1975 for $3600, and sold it in 1982 for $300 prior to purchasing my very first Mercedes - a 1973 280. As they say, the rest is (boring) history. Time Magazine rated it among the 50 most cars! http://content.time.com/time/sp

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Like the Dauphine my Dad got as a program car when he was an executive VP at General Motors? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Or the Opel Kadette he got from them for my Mom? Dan who escaped the GM program cars with a 1970 Ford Maverick 2 door Sent from my iPad > On Jan 29, 2016, at 2:02 PM, OK Don via Merce

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
On Wheeler Dealers they purchased a 1976 AMC Pacer for $3500 and then tricked it out for another $15K, IIRC. They ended up 8K in the hole after donating it to a charity auction... On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Does anyone miss Renau

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-29 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Does anyone miss Renault cars? No more than I miss a simca. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I take that as a No. On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 2:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Does anyone miss Renault cars? > > > > > > -- > > > OK Don > > *“Travel is fatal to p

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-29 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Does anyone miss Renault cars? > > > -- > OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Does anyone miss Renault cars? On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > On January 29, 2016 at 12:24 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > > > IIRC the "body" was fiberglass with stainless panels over it... > > I also seem to re

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-29 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On January 29, 2016 at 12:24 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > > IIRC the "body" was fiberglass with stainless panels over it... > I also seem to remember the engine was a GM v6 which considering the era meant > something not terribly powerful. Might as well have been the little GM

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-29 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Wrong - "fiberglass chassis and underbody structure, along with a brushed stainless steel body" and "The engine is a Peugeot-Renault-Volvo (PRV) 2.85 litre V6 which was designed and built under special contract with

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
29, 2016 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition My assessment exactly, with a few add ons. Gull wing doors with non functioning side windows from a practical standpoint. Stainless body not repairable by an ordinary body shop, except by replacement. [very high cost due to limited

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-29 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Friend bought one not long after they came out, and I drove it. It wasn't impressive. It had a stock American drive train and the handling was nothing special. He kept it for years and finally sold it. IIRC the body was unpainted stainless steel. Where do you find a bodyman who can do an invisi

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-29 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
My assessment exactly, with a few add ons. Gull wing doors with non functioning side windows from a practical standpoint. Stainless body not repairable by an ordinary body shop, except by replacement. [very high cost due to limited production] Nothing outstanding in either power or preformance. No

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I had read that they will have an exemption (not sure which one) to make them street legal. On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 8:57 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Well. that whole idea just flies up my nose > > Anyone here ever driven one for an extended time? Really not that > impressive. > > On

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-28 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Friend bought one not long after they came out, and I drove it. It wasn't impressive. It had a stock American drive train and the handling was nothing special. He kept it for years and finally sold it. IIRC the body was unpainted stainless steel. Where do you find a bodyman who can do an invisib

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-28 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Well. that whole idea just flies up my nose Anyone here ever driven one for an extended time? Really not that impressive. On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 6:45 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: > Yes maker & buyers > > Dwight Giles Jr. > 1982 300CD > 1990 300D > Wickford RI > On Jan 28, 2016 6

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-28 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes maker & buyers Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 1990 300D Wickford RI On Jan 28, 2016 6:44 PM, "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" wrote: > Cocaine required > > --R > > On 1/28/16 6:16 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: > >> DeLorean to go back into production after 35 years. >> >> http://www.naplesnew

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-28 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Cocaine required --R On 1/28/16 6:16 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: DeLorean to go back into production after 35 years. http://www.naplesnews.com/news/watercooler/366763001.xhtml ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okieben

[MBZ] Mercedes Competition

2016-01-28 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
DeLorean to go back into production after 35 years. http://www.naplesnews.com/news/watercooler/366763001.xhtml ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.o