Thanks, not a bad idea , what about raising the rear wheels and running
car and looking underneath for issues?
Peter
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From: Hendrik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 25 September 2007 16:22
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration
The easy
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Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 4:04 PM
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Thanks, not a bad idea , what about raising the rear wheels and running
car and looking underneath for issues?
Peter
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Having replaced the engine and gearbox mounts ( one mount was faulty -
oil leaking out of it ) the vibration/resonance is still there. Could
this be due a faulty clutch plate ? Where the torsional springs
resonate?
I'm at a loss to find the cause of the annoying resonance!
PEter
My New W124
the vibration/resonance is still there. Could this be due
[to] a faulty clutch plate ? Where the torsional springs
resonate?
I don't see how. Once the clutch is engaged the entire
thing is a solid rotating mass. Unless it's slipping.
-- Jim
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Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:19 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration
Having replaced the engine and gearbox mounts ( one mount was faulty -
oil leaking out of it ) the vibration/resonance is still there. Could
this be due a faulty clutch plate
Off course! Bit of brain fade kicked in there .
PEter
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From: Jim Cathey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 25 September 2007 15:38
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration
the vibration/resonance is still there. Could this be due
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Off course! Bit of brain fade kicked in there .
PEter
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From: Jim Cathey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 25 September 2007 15:38
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration
The easy test is to disconnect the prop shaft and then put the car in
gear, if you still have a vibration then you know it is forward of the
prop shaft.
Peter Merle wrote:
Mine has the 5 speed manual tranny. I still am suspecting the missing
propshaft vibration damper.
PEter
The former 250LWB that I had used a 3 piece drive
shaft. For some reason it developed a nasty vibration
when I had it. I replaced the carrier bearings and it
just got worse. And yes, I had all the marks lined up
on it, and marked it before I disassembled it as well.
After goofing around with
The only reason most shops cannot do a Benz driveshaft is that they do
not have the correct ends to hold it. Only Benz uses that tripod
arrangement with flex disk, and the driveshafts just don't go bad that
often, so no one has them. Easy to get, just order from the balancer
manufacturer,
and am
considering that it might be differential mounts .
PEter
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From: Marshall Booth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 September 2007 22:17
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration - new twist
Peter Merle wrote:
Thanks for the sound advice
Craig McCluskey wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:16:56 -0400 Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On some cars (201s for sure) the only way the vibration damper is
available is along with front half of the driveshaft. At least one
member of this forum has replaced the front driveshaft to
Driveline Service of Atlanta or the driveline shop in the northwest
(can't find the name right now - they also advertise in the Star) both
It's in Portland OR, if that helps.
claim they can rebalance a shaft without the damper, or after replacing
the U joint but I've heard from a few of
] OM603 Engine Vibration - new twist
Driveline Service of Atlanta or the driveline shop in the northwest
(can't find the name right now - they also advertise in the Star) both
It's in Portland OR, if that helps.
claim they can rebalance a shaft without the damper, or after replacing
the U joint
The Benz driveshafts after the W108/109 chassis aren't that easy -- the
u-joint is straked in place, not held by centering clips, and if you
don't have the jig to strake a new one in exactly centered, it will
shake like crazy. BTDT. Get a new shaft, they are cheap in
comparison.
Peter
that the 124.130 ( manual tranny ) 300D has a
vibration damper ( behind front flex disc ) on the drive shaft?
Peter
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From: Peter Frederick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 September 2007 01:49
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration
Check the engine
I have one on my 85 201 manual but it has a M102 motor.
Peter Merle wrote:
Thanks for the sound advice - I did inspect mountings and they did
appear to be sound . I took vehvicle to a retired Mercedes Benz Mechanic
and he said that I should have the vibration damper on the propshaft (
which I
Yes it seems that the petrols all have then according to EPC. It's the
Diesel W124 where the confusion arises.
PEter
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From: Hendrik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 September 2007 11:26
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration - new twist
Some do, some don't. Manny trannys are rare in the US, and I don't
believe that the damper is readily available here.
I do know that some cars have it. It may have been removed when it
failed as a new one was difficult to obtain.
Peter
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Peter,
What are the symptoms when this is not fitted? I'm considering that the
differential mounts might be suspect
PEter
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From: Peter Frederick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 September 2007 15:43
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine
Peter Merle wrote:
Thanks for the sound advice - I did inspect mountings and they did
appear to be sound . I took vehvicle to a retired Mercedes Benz Mechanic
and he said that I should have the vibration damper on the propshaft (
which I don't have ) The twist comes in that the EPC does not
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:16:56 -0400 Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On some cars (201s for sure) the only way the vibration damper is
available is along with front half of the driveshaft. At least one
member of this forum has replaced the front driveshaft to replace the
damper.
My New W124 300D non turbo exhibits strong vibration from idle to 1600
rpm when engine is slightly loaded. Does not do this when out of gear
and you rev vehicle . It is rpm related and not road speed related . It
sounds a bit like an engine is labouring . Is this normal? ( BTW my
OM617's don't do
Peter Merle wrote:
My New W124 300D non turbo exhibits strong vibration from idle to 1600
rpm when engine is slightly loaded. Does not do this when out of gear
and you rev vehicle . It is rpm related and not road speed related . It
sounds a bit like an engine is labouring . Is this normal? (
Check the engine mounts -- on that car they are fluid filled, and when
they inevitably leak out, it vibrates badly. Will cluck and hammer on
shutoff, too.
If it is a drumming vibration, on acceleration only, likely the
transmission mount is bad and is allowing the engine to pound on the
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