Re: [MBZ] OM616 oil pump

2011-08-19 Thread Ed Booher
On another note car was shaking so badly that I damaged my hinges / springs. Hood will no longer hold itself up unless I open fully, and then I think it's more along the lines of being at an angle that won't let it fall more than holding itself there. EdB -- "Das beste oder nichts." - *Gott

Re: [MBZ] OM616 oil pump

2011-08-19 Thread Ed Booher
I couldn't see anything inside for the amount of white smoke coming outside. I understand this is blow by? Opened oil filler, put in about a half quart of fresh oil, left filler cap off and started car. White smoke was immediate. I'm not sure I want to know what that means. I did see a lot of silve

Re: [MBZ] OM616 oil pump

2011-08-18 Thread Curt Raymond
ely 1-2psi. -Curt Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 09:20:16 -0400 From: "Allan Streib" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM616 oil pump Message-ID: <1313673616.31267.140258131060...@webmail.messagingengine.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii

Re: [MBZ] OM616 oil pump

2011-08-18 Thread Dieselhead
You can verify oil circulation by taking off the oil filler cap while the engine is running and look at the oil flow around the lifters. You can check for sludge on top, the same way. You can check for sludge on the bottom by pulling the lower oil pan. Generally if there is no sludge on top,

Re: [MBZ] OM616 oil pump

2011-08-18 Thread Ed Booher
Right possibly plugged oil galley I assume is very bad and requires lot of work. EdB If you pull the lid off the filter and the contents don't look like sludge, and a properly functioning gauge reads 3 bar when running, you either have a plugged oil galley or good oil flow. Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] OM616 oil pump

2011-08-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: On the older engines there's a tube or pipe directly connecting the engine to the gauge. I believe what the gauge is showing is the outlet pressure from the oil filter. If you pull the lid off the filter and the contents don't look like sludge, and a properly functioning g

Re: [MBZ] OM616 oil pump

2011-08-18 Thread Allan Streib
I agree. If your pressure is that low at hot idle you are either using too light an oil, you have an oil pump problem, or your engine is just really worn. If the pressure is always pegged, could mean a stuck relief valve. With any abnormal readings, it's a good idea to verify the actual pressur

Re: [MBZ] OM616 oil pump

2011-08-18 Thread Max Dillon
Why don't you change the oil and the filter and eliminate the possibility? If this car has the oil filter stem with o-rings, change those as well. Oil pressure is measured via an oil feed line from oil filter housing area to the gauge. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please ex

Re: [MBZ] OM616 oil pump

2011-08-18 Thread Rolf
FSM specifies 0.5 bar min but that is just scary :D -Rolf On 08/18/2011 09:10 AM, Allan Streib wrote: On the older engines there's a tube or pipe directly connecting the engine to the gauge. The gauge reads the actual physical pressure. The gauge should be pegged during driving and should i

Re: [MBZ] OM616 oil pump

2011-08-18 Thread Allan Streib
On the older engines there's a tube or pipe directly connecting the engine to the gauge. The gauge reads the actual physical pressure. The gauge should be pegged during driving and should indicate at least 1 bar/15 PSI at hot idle. I think the newer engines have an electrical sender. Not sure

Re: [MBZ] OM616 oil pump

2011-08-18 Thread Rolf
On the 61x there is a a tube that runs from the oil filter housing to the gauge. I also believe there is a oil pressure relief valve in the area, I could be wrong. -Rolf On 08/18/2011 08:40 AM, Ed Booher wrote: What, and how, does the gauge actually meter the oil pressure? Mine usually stays

Re: [MBZ] OM616 oil pump

2011-08-18 Thread Ed Booher
What, and how, does the gauge actually meter the oil pressure? Mine usually stays completely pegged at 3 (bar?) Every so often it will fall off that. When I first bought the car it moved around a bit, about a week later it started the staying pegged thing. Last night it was moving around

Re: [MBZ] OM616 oil pump

2011-08-18 Thread Walt Zarnoch
If flow is low, pressure will usually be low. Walt On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:39 AM, Ed Booher wrote: > Is there anyway to verify the pump is properly circulating oil and not > gummed up sucking on sludge? Without tearing the engine down? > > EdB > > > > ___ >

[MBZ] OM616 oil pump

2011-08-17 Thread Ed Booher
Is there anyway to verify the pump is properly circulating oil and not gummed up sucking on sludge? Without tearing the engine down? EdB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.c