even when I was in school (the 60s) I and the others I went to school
with were also taught with some educating thrown in. Personally, I never
did well being told what to do. If I could see the need for something
or if the need was explained, I was an enthusiastic learner. ;-) But
the bigge
--R wrote:
> I fear most chirruns are taught, and those who are educated will be the ones
> who lead...
>
Does $$ play in positioning for leadership position?
mao
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Peter wrote:
> Certainly NOT engineering or wastewater treatment.
Tell us which wastewater engineering firm?
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I had been brought up understanding that schooling was to learn how to think.
The new schooling is to find out what to think. The more ivory tower, the
gooder you are schooled. If you have to think, then you have failed. Just be
able to recite the mantra, and all your peers will believe you
The less said the better.
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> By contrast, she makes andrew look like a gun totin texas conservative.
>
>
> So, she's a liberal too?
>>
>> --R
>>
>> On 2/16/15 7:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
By contrast, she makes andrew look like a gun totin texas conservative.
So, she's a liberal too?
--R
On 2/16/15 7:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
She is one of those smart people who are actually quite stupid.
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I learned at a rather late age that there is a difference between
teaching and educating. I had been taught for many years in the
"teaching" system and did well. When I was being educated it was quite
a shock, though I guess I eventually benefited from it and did OK but it
required considerab
So, she's a liberal too?
--R
On 2/16/15 7:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
She is one of those smart people who are actually quite stupid.
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
So she’s dead because she believed the lunar landing
42 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in
Boston?
It's fairly common to mistake memorization for intelligence. One
thing I always stressed when teaching is that ideas are different than
words, and one must understand the ideas/concepts being
Ya gotta be able to THINK. No matter how bad things may get - in combat,
building a house or a space ship, driving a car, flying an aircraft, sailing an
ocean, making a cup of coffee, or digging a ditch, ya gotta be able to think
and do what is right - to innovate as necessary to do what is rea
It's fairly common to mistake memorization for intelligence. One
thing I always stressed when teaching is that ideas are different than
words, and one must understand the ideas/concepts being translated
into and out of words in order to learn.
My ex-boss is a perfect example -- she got str
This episode is better - - but definitely NSFW.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkC4hj07dh8
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Probably not safe for work. Vulgarity, and maybe some nudity.
> Penn and Teller. The name of the show is Bullsh
There is no education system that can teach someone to think. Either they
will, or they won't. The education system can give those who are capable
the tools they need to not have to re-invent the wheel. The rest can only
be made to be (hopefully) functional enough to do what the thinkers want
them
So do I.
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> <>
>
> I have a brother like that.
>
> Greg
>
> --
>
OK Don
NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!
*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mind
See my tag line - nothing works for some people but peeing on the electric
fence ---
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> The goal of education is learning how to think. Thinking requires facts
> but education is not just learning facts.
The goal of education is learning how to think. Thinking requires
facts but education is not just learning facts. Comments like this
imply that our education system isn't working.
Sadly, it has not been so for some decades.
The goal of the current ejamacashun sistem is to turn out good littl
g. was: Where to dump the snow in
Boston?
She is one of those smart people who are actually quite stupid.
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> So she’s dead because she believed the lunar landing was faked?
>
> Did the Illumina
The goal of education is learning how to think. Thinking requires facts but
education is not just learning facts. Comments like this imply that our
education system isn't working.
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 7:11 PM
>
Yeah, I used to have to work for one of those too. What a pain in the
sitting part.
Peter
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Ahhh…… My faith in the List is restored! ;->)
Addison
On Feb 16, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
From:
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Boston?
OMG you don't know me at all.
My former partner steadfastly believed the lunar
Original Message
From: Andrew Strasfogel:
>OMG you don't know me at all.
>My former partner steadfastly >believed the lunar landing was >faked, and
>nothing could shake this belief. >That was one of her fatal flaws...
Probably not safe for work. Vulgarity, and maybe some nudity.
Penn and Tel
She is one of those smart people who are actually quite stupid.
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> So she’s dead because she believed the lunar landing was faked?
>
> Did the Illuminati do her in?
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> > On Feb 16, 2015, at 7:02 P
So she’s dead because she believed the lunar landing was faked?
Did the Illuminati do her in?
Dan
> On Feb 16, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> OMG you don't know me at all.
>
> My former partner steadfastly believed the lunar landing was faked, and
> nothing c
ndrew Strasfogel
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow
> in
> > Boston?
> > Date: February 13, 2015 7:23:44 AM PST
> >
> > Curt, you just don't get it. The same folks who faked the lunar landing
> > photos have figure
gt;
> From: Andrew Strasfogel
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in
> Boston?
> Date: February 13, 2015 7:23:44 AM PST
>
> Curt, you just don't get it. The same folks who faked the lunar landing
> photos have figured out a way to make i
charade for many years.
Surely you don't REALLY believe the landings were faked…..
Addison Thompson
In California where the temps have been in the 80s the past few days
From: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in
Boston?
Date: Februa
Scott wrote:
> I have become very skeptical about information we get from the established
> media these days, especially when reported stuff disagrees with my personal
> observations.
>
Totally agree!!
However, a slight change in our actions can become a reasonable
national unity among us citize
om] On Behalf Of
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 9:58 AM
> To: arche...@embarqmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow
> in Boston?
>
> So if the polar ice cap isn't
e glaciers doesn't lie..
>>>
>>> -Curt
>>> From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>>> To: "arche...@embarqmail.com" ; Mercedes
>>> Discussion List
>>> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 9:58 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Glo
Max wrote:
> The earth has never been static (in geology and in climate) and it never
> will be. This is just the way it is. Man will adapt and survive, as he
> has done so for millenia...
Yes, but we have never become quite so zealous about doing something
with sooo much of the mantle, never ha
--R wrote:
> (who watches sea level rise and fall a coupla times a day, every day)
>
No Miami groundwater issues?
mao
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Andrew wrote:
> They are being funded by latte-guzzling liberals who want you to drive a
> Prius.
>
Funny. I like.
mao
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Max wrote:
> You were trained as a geologist I believe.
We have all been trained in a common core tradition.
Yet our politics, religion, family, age, IQ affect us differently so
we arrive at pole opinions on these things. We are individuals that
love freedom. Andrew can agree generally with AlGo
Curt wrote:
>Whats causing glaciers to recede? >Even if temperature data is being >faked
>the pictures of big lakes >where there used to be glaciers >doesn't lie..
You asked...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11395516/The-fiddling-with-temperature-data-is-the-big
n and shall always be.
> -Curt
>
> From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> To: Andrew Strasfogel ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 10:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the sno
drew Strasfogel ; Mercedes Discussion List
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in
Boston?
Andrew,
So you've already done the research yourself on these areas, or are you
accepting the claims by the alarmists at f
Where I used to live in Italy (just north of Naples), the ground elevation
could change by 5 or 10 feet in a matter of months, due to the volcanic
activity so close to the surface. Our command had to have a "Continuity of
Operations Plan" to relocate in the event of a volcanic eruption.
The eart
-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in
Boston?
Andrew,
The article that I think Curt posted several days ago about experiencing
"relentless inundation of coastal areas,
such as Miami" (your words) included a key bit of information that perhaps you
missed. When the everglades were dr
Where I used to live in Italy (just north of Naples), the ground elevation
could change by 5 or 10 feet in a matter of months, due to the volcanic
activity so close to the surface. Our command had to have a "Continuity of
Operations Plan" to relocate in the event of a volcanic eruption.
The earth
Andrew,
So you've already done the research yourself on these areas, or are you
accepting the claims by the alarmists at face value?
How much have the seas risen?
Do you remember the hysteria about acid rain back in the 80's? Or the
"Population Bomb" back in the 70's? This is just the current
The whole area where we lived in Houston had sunk by 9ft (it might have
been more, I forget) over the last 75 years due to groundwater
extraction. The clay soil expands when wet (which means it shrinks when
it dries, which means your foundations need to be watered!).
I thought that was pretty
So in Patagonia the mountains there were under a km of ice back 10k
years ago or so. Now the mountains are like 1.5km high, so the ice was
2.5km thick there (give or take). Absent paleolithic SUVs and CFPPs,
what caused all that ice to melt?
I have a sense that many peoples' resistance to th
> -Curt
>> From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>> To: "arche...@embarqmail.com" ; Mercedes
>> Discussion List
>> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 9:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow
>> in Boston?
>
Andrew,
The article that I think Curt posted several days ago about experiencing
"relentless inundation of coastal areas,
such as Miami" (your words) included a key bit of information that perhaps you
missed. When the everglades were drained, the elevation in the area dropped by
seven feet. T
> To: "arche...@embarqmail.com" ; Mercedes
> Discussion List
> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 9:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow
> in Boston?
>
> So if the polar ice cap isn't melting, what do you think has caused the
&
y 13, 2015 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in
Boston?
So if the polar ice cap isn't melting, what do you think has caused the
worldwide rise in sea level? The relentless inundation of coastal areas,
such as Miami, NYC, Boston and other
So if the polar ice cap isn't melting, what do you think has caused the
worldwide rise in sea level? The relentless inundation of coastal areas,
such as Miami, NYC, Boston and other low lying metropoli? Trick
photography? Conspiracy by the renewable energy cartel?
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 5:17 A
Paul Homewood, who, on his Notalotofpeopleknowthat blog, had checked the
published temperature graphs for three weather stations in Paraguay against the
temperatures that had originally been recorded. In each instance, the actual
trend of 60 years of data had been dramatically reversed, so that
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