Re: [MBZ] OT: Servers

2017-05-18 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> > Why not a NAS? I wanted: low power time machine target easy/familiar to administer It's also running our web server, and is a mail relay now that gmail has cut off the ability of my primary 10.2.8 machine to contact it. Because it's 24x7 and running cron, it's also a candidate to take

Re: [MBZ] OT: Servers

2017-05-17 Thread clay via Mercedes
Why not a NAS? Maybe you are doing really cool stuff that needs massive amounts of processing… clay > On May 16, 2017, at 6:57 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have just about exhausted all attempts to turn my $50 Mac Pro 1,1 into a > suitable replacement for

Re: [MBZ] OT: Servers

2017-05-17 Thread Ed Booher via Mercedes
Going to need knowledge on that flash to 2,1 thing soon. On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > We have two MP 1,1 units that I flashed to 2,1 firmware, into which I > installed 2x4-core 3GHz CPU's and HD4870 video cards and 16GB of > RAM,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Servers

2017-05-17 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
We have two MP 1,1 units that I flashed to 2,1 firmware, into which I installed 2x4-core 3GHz CPU's and HD4870 video cards and 16GB of RAM, running El Capitan. They run hot, of course, as in up to 350W or so, but only when somebody is doing something, which is not many hours in a week. They are

Re: [MBZ] OT: Servers

2017-05-17 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
des@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Ed Booher <edboo...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Servers Old school XServe RAID: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/xserve/specs/xserve_raid_sfp.html

Re: [MBZ] OT: Servers

2017-05-17 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Servers Best way to deal with this in my mind is get a Mac Mini and set it up as a server.  If it’s just being used as a server why would you need all the other stuff like video, external drives, etc.?  There are later model Minis

Re: [MBZ] OT: Servers

2017-05-17 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> > Best thing about using a laptop as a server? Built in UPS. But not as good a UPS as the surplus $35 2kVA unit that the computer cluster is running from, off an external 48V 75AH battery bank. (Which was somewhat more pricey!) And the laptop's battery would not run the external drives in

Re: [MBZ] OT: Servers

2017-05-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Hah! I used to have two XServes and an XServe RAID with a full complement of drives in a rack in my garage. Too bad I didn’t live up north, as it would have provided enough heat to keep the garage nice and toasty in the winter. Got them as surplus from a local private school that closed.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Servers

2017-05-17 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
The G4 is doing a great job, and fills the bill. It probably draws less power than a laptop with two external drives in RAID. It's just a bit fragile and fiddly, mechanically, and slow when administering it. I was just wanting to use those drive sleds for quick swapping as I rotate the spare

Re: [MBZ] OT: Servers

2017-05-17 Thread Ed Booher via Mercedes
Old school XServe RAID: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/xserve/specs/xserve_raid_sfp.html Need a fiber card, but it holds 14 drives. On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Primary service is SATA RAID. For the Time Machine backups from

Re: [MBZ] OT: Servers

2017-05-17 Thread Ed Booher via Mercedes
Best thing about using a laptop as a server? Built in UPS. EdB On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Can a MacBook serve as a server? > Does it draw less power than the desktops? > Or does an external drive defeat the power savings? > >

Re: [MBZ] OT: Servers

2017-05-17 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Primary service is SATA RAID. For the Time Machine backups from all the other computers. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] OT: Servers

2017-05-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Best way to deal with this in my mind is get a Mac Mini and set it up as a server. If it’s just being used as a server why would you need all the other stuff like video, external drives, etc.? There are later model Minis that are designed specifically for this purpose. -D > On May 17,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Servers

2017-05-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Can a MacBook serve as a server? Does it draw less power than the desktops? Or does an external drive defeat the power savings? Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] OT: Servers

2017-05-17 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
mail.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Servers Just bought a 1,1 that is wheeling its way to me as we speak. (From Michigan to Indiana with an estimated arrival of Tuesday, so maybe it is walking.) I plan to go full on the other direction and strip down the s

Re: [MBZ] OT: Servers

2017-05-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Any of the cheese graters are going to suck power while running. You’ve got a lot of hardware in there that needs the juice. It won’t be any better with an enterprise grade Windoze server unless it’s something really late model. 100W at idle is pretty typical of these machines. Dialing down

Re: [MBZ] OT: Servers

2017-05-17 Thread Ed Booher via Mercedes
Just bought a 1,1 that is wheeling its way to me as we speak. (From Michigan to Indiana with an estimated arrival of Tuesday, so maybe it is walking.) I plan to go full on the other direction and strip down the system I call beast currently running 2 quad core xeons for eight cores and 16 GB of

[MBZ] OT: Servers

2017-05-16 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
I have just about exhausted all attempts to turn my $50 Mac Pro 1,1 into a suitable replacement for the G4 Sawtooth that is our current file/web server. Because it's 24x7 the power draw is a big issue. The G4 is 35-40W, headless, but the best I can beat out of the MP is 97W. That's with