Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-12-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
No, it was an "accidental discharge"...of not necessarily a bullet. On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 6:03 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > On December 3, 2018 at 5:26 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > I have noticed it seems

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-12-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On December 3, 2018 at 5:26 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > > > I have noticed it seems many police officers fall way short of proper use and > safety involving firearms. It's just like hunters. The ones who merely go through a hunter safety course because it's required,

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-12-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I have noticed it seems many police officers fall way short of proper use and safety involving firearms. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 3, 2018, at 4:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Bonehead. Add to the fact that he had been drinking. Major cardinal rule > breach in my book. It

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-12-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Bonehead. Add to the fact that he had been drinking. Major cardinal rule breach in my book. It was correct for them to cite him, I believe. -D > On Dec 3, 2018, at 5:10 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Not the best way to watch baseball. > >

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-12-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Not the best way to watch baseball. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQWukUgjynw ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-12-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Notice the guy on the right getting ready to shoot, and the RSO has to make him stop and don eye and hearing protection? There's no discernible recoil involved in firing those shotguns. Could they be training with blanks? Brazilian cops run the full range of skill, just like ours. You'll see

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Yeahbut, a good range (a safe range) won't have any combustible materials forward of the line, most ranges I've shot at had a sand floor. The output of those guns seems weird, that long slow flash. I suspect they're shooting some sort of incendiary round, obviously not intended for indoor

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-12-02 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
December 02, 2018 8:07 PM > To: Okie Benz > Cc: Dan Penoff > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday > > A lot of people don’t realize how much unburnt powder comes out of a gun > barrel… > > -D > > > > On Dec 2, 2018, at 5:57 PM, Mitch Hale

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-12-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
A lot of people don’t realize how much unburnt powder comes out of a gun barrel… -D > On Dec 2, 2018, at 5:57 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Some people wish they didn't go to the range on black Friday. > > https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=CYPSB_1543761936 > >

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-12-02 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Some people wish they didn't go to the range on black Friday. https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=CYPSB_1543761936 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Feds have been quietly writing rules so that when certain parties come to power, everyone is "guilty" of something. They can lock up anyone who disagrees. Just another wunna dem. I've heard of the AT Fed agents trying to get people to do something Il le gal. That useta be called entr ap

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 6:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curt Raymond Subject: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday As usual my dad and I spent black Friday at the range. This was my first opportunity to shoot last year's

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Wha? I thought short barrelled rifles were illegal, not ridiculously long barreled pistols. -Curt On Thursday, November 29, 2018, 5:56:31 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Interesting! My son's Ruger came with a warning that while the barrels of the Charger and the 10/22 are

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Interesting! My son's Ruger came with a warning that while the barrels of the Charger and the 10/22 are interchangeable, and you can mount the short Charger barrel on the 10/22, it is a federal offense to mount the longer 10/22 barrel on the Charger! Go figure … On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 1:47 PM

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Thats the one, it was my grandfather's. Dad put a shotgun scope on ours, I don't like the scope at all. I didn't know about the peep sight, I think I'll snag one... -Curt On Thursday, November 29, 2018, 2:43:48 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: That is a Savage Model 24. 

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I wouldn't mind an AR pistol for home defense, but I would rather pay $400 for it than pay $2000. I've been thinking about building a set of 3 ARs, with a budget of around $1500 for all. A 10-12" pistol for home security. A 16" carbine for all around use. A 26" AR-10 for when you want to

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
That is a Savage Model 24. They are indeed the harvester. If you can find a Lyman Model 53D peep sight, the accuracy is phenomenal for open sights. It does not interfere with using it as a shotgun. Unfortunately it is no longer in production. 22 mag/20 was quite popular. See

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
His is the short barrel version. Still a tarted up 9mm pistol, IMHO. -D > On Nov 29, 2018, at 2:19 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > >> On November 29, 2018 at 9:58 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I can understand that a whole lot more than the Sig. You’re essentially

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On November 29, 2018 at 9:58 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I can understand that a whole lot more than the Sig. You’re essentially > paying $1800 for a tarted-up 9mm pistol, IMHO. > I forget, were we talking about this?

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Right - he also bought three rotary magazines. My Ruger American bolt action 22 uses the same magazines, as does the 10/22. You can have 40 rounds in four rotary mags that take up the same space as that banana clip! On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 12:36 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Just buy a speed loader for the Marlin. Like this: http://www.spee-d-loader.net/spee-d-loader/ I love mine. -D > On Nov 29, 2018, at 1:35 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > I'm not sure how much simpler it is, the action looks to be the venerable >

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I'm not sure how much simpler it is, the action looks to be the venerable 10/22 with its rotary magazine. Pretty much the same system as the Marlin. Although I prefer the rotary magazine I don't like that big stupid looking banana clip... -Curt On Thursday, November 29, 2018, 1:33:13 PM

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yes, the plastic thing. -D > On Nov 29, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > I presume you mean than the plastic thing, ain't nothing in a cartridge gun > simpler than a break action... > > -Curt > > On Thursday, November 29, 2018, 12:36:33 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: >

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I presume you mean than the plastic thing, ain't nothing in a cartridge gun simpler than a break action... -Curt On Thursday, November 29, 2018, 12:36:33 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: My Marlin 60 is a far simpler rifle and dead-nuts simple as well as amazingly accurate.  I

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
They're more expensive than a 12ga for sure but remember its a single shot break action, you're not firing 100 a year. I think the last I saw at Wal-Mart were $15 a box, expensive but still less than a buck a shot.The advantage is that the gun is small and handy. Actually as I think of it I've

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Expensive is relative. If you don't shoot skeet with it, they are great for the occasional squirrel. On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 11:32 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > The .410 shells tend to be expensive around here. > > RB > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Small and light are primary concerns for an aircraft survival weapon. On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 11:54 AM OK Don wrote: > Expensive is relative. If you don't shoot skeet with it, they are great > for the occasional squirrel. > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 11:32 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < >

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 6:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curt Raymond Subject: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday As usual my dad and I spent black Friday at the range. This was my first opportunity to shoot last year's Christmas present: https

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Now I’m jealous. I have lusted after an M1 Garand for a while, but I just can’t justify the price, even for an tatty one. So I settle for my (Yugo) SKS. -D > On Nov 29, 2018, at 12:32 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > His thinking was that the Charger is smaller and lighter than a

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
His thinking was that the Charger is smaller and lighter than a rifle, is supposed to be accurate to 50 yards, and he thinks it looks cool. He has a break action over/under 22/.410, but it's fallen into dis-favor since he got the M1 Garand. On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 11:13 AM Curt Raymond via

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
My Marlin 60 is a far simpler rifle and dead-nuts simple as well as amazingly accurate. I can get a 2” grouping at 50 yards with iron sights, better with a bench rest and the cheap scope that came with it. -D > On Nov 29, 2018, at 12:11 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > I don't understand it at

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 29/11/2018 11:11 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I don't understand it at all, a breakdown .22 with a real barrel and iron sights is a much better choice. Add a scope and you've got redundant sights. Bolt action for simple repairs if something goes wrong, actually break action for

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I don't understand it at all, a breakdown .22 with a real barrel and iron sights is a much better choice. Add a scope and you've got redundant sights. Bolt action for simple repairs if something goes wrong, actually break action for something really simple to maintain and fix. Dad has a break

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Every which way - two hands at the rear, pistol style; two hands, one in front and one on the pistol grip; bi-pod on the bench, two hands; one hand out, pistol style. I personally don't like it. On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 7:47 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > How

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Looks like they provide a bipod with it for shooting at the range. Pretty cheep, too. My local dealer sells the breakdown model for just a little over $300. I can understand that a whole lot more than the Sig. You’re essentially paying $1800 for a tarted-up 9mm pistol, IMHO. -D > On Nov

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-29 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
How does one hold and shoot that thing? 2 hands? --FT Sent from iPhone > On Nov 28, 2018, at 1:52 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > Kids these days . . . must be a thing. My son bought a Ruger Charger, same > sort of thing > https://ruger.com/products/22Charger/models.html > At least it's

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-28 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Kids these days . . . must be a thing. My son bought a Ruger Charger, same sort of thing https://ruger.com/products/22Charger/models.html At least it's a breakdown model, he plans to carry it when he flies over wild areas ( the Rockies and the east coast) for survival. On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at

Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Nice. I had a whole week to go to the range with my new (to me) Lanber 2099 shotgun. I never got around to it, unfortunately. When I went a week or two ago for pistol practice I took it wth me and just ran through four stands, and got 14 out of 16, which I was quite pleased with. My boss

[MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

2018-11-27 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
As usual my dad and I spent black Friday at the range. This was my first opportunity to shoot last year's Christmas present: https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4874/45152868525_9d850493b0_b.jpg Swedish made Remington rolling block in 8x58r, the round is often called the "Danish Kraig". Its quite