Re: [MBZ] POS w220 is gone

Shouldn’t be. All indications from what I’ve seen and experienced is that once they’re sorted, they’re fine. -D > On Jan 7, 2018, at 1:32 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > > I'm hoping that the W210 is not that desperate. > > -- Jim >

Re: [MBZ] POS w220 is gone

I'm hoping that the W210 is not that desperate. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] POS w220 is gone

IT was a post 1995 benz. Crap on wheels It needed a computer to be able to diagnose or do any repairs, and I only need a car which needs wrenches alone to be made good. As for the technical issue, it has pooped the bed with the Airmatic. The speedo cluster failed a year ago, the electronics

Re: [MBZ] POS w220 is gone

So what was wrong with it? Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 6, 2018, at 7:05 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes > wrote: > > That car was not worth the scrap metal value. Well, a little more. Sold it > for “rebuilder” price of $1800. Bound to be much more value than that in

Re: [MBZ] POS w220 is gone

You did well. Celebrate the fact that you are now free of this encumbrance. -D > On Jan 6, 2018, at 8:05 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes > wrote: > > That car was not worth the scrap metal value. Well, a little more. Sold it > for “rebuilder” price of $1800. Bound to

[MBZ] POS w220 is gone

That car was not worth the scrap metal value. Well, a little more. Sold it for “rebuilder” price of $1800. Bound to be much more value than that in the car, but I just needed it gone. No need for four cars, when only three are actually used on the road. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two

Re: [MBZ] POS W220

It's how the Germans are winning the war, not everyone knows they never really gave up. --FT On 2/15/17 8:33 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: Yeah, lets take simple discreet systems, a speedo, a tacho, a temp gauge, a fuel gauge and a handful of idiot lights, (that are relatively easy

Re: [MBZ] POS W220

Hey! good plan! I'll sell ya a cluster for the SD for $2500! For that, I'll even put in new gears in the speedo/odo! clay via Mercedes February 15, 2017 at 7:00 PM That is the plan. I am thinking the free SD will do the job much better and less expensive

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Yeah, lets take simple discreet systems, a speedo, a tacho, a temp gauge, a fuel gauge and a handful of idiot lights, (that are relatively easy to troubleshoot) and turn it into a complicated, non-repairable mess, just because we can Charge $2500 for it in place of $200. Then for good

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Thank you Curley, I will see how involved the repair becomes clay > On Feb 14, 2017, at 1:32 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > I sent a list of those who advertise in the Star about a week ago. Palo Alto > Speedo has advertised in the star for 30-40 years.

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That is the plan. I am thinking the free SD will do the job much better and less expensive clay > On Feb 14, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Bingo, replace the cluster and dump the car, now you've got more room for > the real MBs > >

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This in not just the speedo making no data, it is ALL NO DATA, so I can drive the car until it runs out of gas, because i will not know the tank is getting empty. That the oil pressure is down, the parking brake is on, the temp is in the red, or any other host of failures clay > On Feb 14,

Re: [MBZ] POS W220

The grossest issue is that the thing runs on florescent lighting. A bunch of step up transformers to take 12v to 4kv to power three lamps. The board is a full on logic board beyond what a simple arduino can defeat. There are a few yootube videos on how to swap in LED, but that is beyond my

Re: [MBZ] POS W220

On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 06:58:36 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > When an important dash lamp bulb in my 210 burned out after only > 250,000 miles, I turned on my GPS for a nighttime speedometer and kept > driving to work. Mitch. I have done the same thing,

Re: [MBZ] POS W220

;mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Mitch Haley <mi...@mitchellhaley.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] POS W220 When an important dash lamp bulb in my 210 burned out after only 250,000 miles, I turned on my GPS for a nighttime speedometer and kept driving to work. Mitch. > On February 14, 2017 at 4:13 P

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When an important dash lamp bulb in my 210 burned out after only 250,000 miles, I turned on my GPS for a nighttime speedometer and kept driving to work. Mitch. > On February 14, 2017 at 4:13 PM OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Does the car still run and drive? If

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I sent a list of those who advertise in the Star about a week ago. Palo Alto Speedo has advertised in the star for 30-40 years. I redid the car-part.com search for 2000 to 2006 and there are plenty from $100 for 112k miles to $250. I sent the list to Clay Meade Dillon via Mercedes

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Bingo, replace the cluster and dump the car, now you've got more room for the real MBs - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > BBA Reman rebuilds them for $165.00. > >

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BBA Reman rebuilds them for $165.00. https://us-shop.bba-reman.com/shop/parts/instrument-cluster/mercedes-instrument-cluster-repair/ -D > On Feb 14, 2017, at 4:11 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes

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Does the car still run and drive? If so, drive "by the seat of your pants". You can judge your speed reasonably well, and use the surrounding traffic - just match them. I drove my Olds V8 powered MGA for 10 years that way - never did spend the money to convert/connect the speedo. I did have oil

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Nobody overhauls / fixes the clusters? Business opportunity? - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] POS W220

Here;s one on eBay for $180: http://www.ebay.com/itm/00-06-MERCEDES-W220-S430-CL500-INSTRUMENT-CLUSTER-SPEEDOMETER-264k-2205407947-/262255202022 -D > On Feb 14, 2017, at 2:38

Re: [MBZ] POS W220

I think in those cars, and Jaime would know the details, everything is connected to the CANBUS which is like a network in the car, and all the devices talk to it and receive info from it, so you would need to know the protocols, device addresses on the bus, etc. then how a particular component

Re: [MBZ] POS W220

I did a search on car-part.com for 2002 only. Any idea what other years may be the same? If other years interchange, I will redo the search. nothing shows up for 2002. I submitted a request. I will let you know if I find anything. Unfortunately it is an electronic toy. As with any

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Jaime might chime in here, but the protocol translation would be problematic, I suspect. -D > On Feb 14, 2017, at 12:23 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes > wrote: > > -D wrote: >> Since it’s a digital cluster, when it dies you’re flying blind as Clay >> describes. > >

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-D wrote: > Since it’s a digital cluster, when it dies you’re flying blind as Clay > describes. --FT plays with arduino, correct? Why can't somebody in geek land figure how to tap that system stream and deliver to hack interface? Yeah, W123 may not have stuff, but it remains reliable for cheap

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And as Clay suggests, there was a recall on the instrument clusters. I don’t remember the details, but I do remember seeing references to it in the various W220 forums. Since it’s a digital cluster, when it dies you’re flying blind as Clay describes. -D > On Feb 14, 2017, at 9:58 AM, Floyd

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And not only that but you will also likely need all manner of expensive gear and service from the stealer to replace it and get it and the rest of the car and systems to play nice with each other and actually talk to each other. Sorta like marriage counseling for a car and it's extended

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It also bolsters my contention that the W220 is a veritable snake pit of functions only manageable if you have a DAS/Xentry system, and even if you do you’re still pretty much relegated to being a parts changer of very expensive parts. I’ve had cars I had little confidence in but my W220,

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Clay's report, though negative, has value because it educates us as a group. - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 6:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I do not revel in your loss, however, it does give me all the more > validation for getting rid

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I do not revel in your loss, however, it does give me all the more validation for getting rid of my W220. Sorry. -D > On Feb 14, 2017, at 2:23 AM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > > This car is really a rolling polished turd. The cluster just shat itself, so > now a

[MBZ] POS W220

This car is really a rolling polished turd. The cluster just shat itself, so now a driver can no longer see what it going on regarding speed or other data while driving. Research shows DBAG knew full well they had screwed up and had a 10 recall on this. I am not sure the work was done, but