Re: [MBZ] Pine green 280SE 4.5 on BAT

2020-04-24 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
on many occasions.   From: Curt Raymond [mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:20 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Cc: Scott Ritchey Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pine green 280SE 4.5 on BAT   Not exactly, I'd say "Tractors with loaders BENEFIT from 4wd". What the re

Re: [MBZ] Pine green 280SE 4.5 on BAT

2020-04-23 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
t; -Original Message- >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim >> Cathey via Mercedes >> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 3:18 PM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Cc: Jim Cathey >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pine green 280SE

Re: [MBZ] Pine green 280SE 4.5 on BAT

2020-04-23 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
e- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim > Cathey via Mercedes > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 3:18 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Jim Cathey > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pine green 280SE 4.5 on BAT > > > I don’t recall 4WD bei

Re: [MBZ] Pine green 280SE 4.5 on BAT

2020-04-23 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Tractors with loaders need AWD. Otherwise a back wheel just spins when there > is a load in the bucket. The only loader in the neighborhood was on an old Johnny Popper, and certainly was not AWD. That's what weights on the rear were for. _Our_ loader had six legs, and three pitchforks... --

Re: [MBZ] Pine green 280SE 4.5 on BAT

2020-04-23 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
edes Discussion List > Cc: Jim Cathey > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pine green 280SE 4.5 on BAT > > > I don’t recall 4WD being all that popular on pickup trucks until the 80s or > > 90s. > > When I was a kid (60-70's), in semi-farm country, most pickups were NOT 4wd. > Nor

Re: [MBZ] Pine green 280SE 4.5 on BAT

2020-04-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Absolutely, The Internationals were probably as rusty if not more than the Chevys. -D > On Apr 22, 2020, at 3:26 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > You want rust, you look for an International. Also very cool trucks but very > rusty. > > I saw a FSJ (Full size Jeep) pickup the other day. It was

Re: [MBZ] Pine green 280SE 4.5 on BAT

2020-04-22 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
You want rust, you look for an International. Also very cool trucks but very rusty. I saw a FSJ (Full size Jeep) pickup the other day. It was in beautiful shape, you don't see those around here very often anymore. -Curt On Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 3:05:44 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Pine green 280SE 4.5 on BAT

2020-04-22 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I don’t recall 4WD being all that popular on pickup trucks until the 80s or > 90s. When I was a kid (60-70's), in semi-farm country, most pickups were NOT 4wd. Nor were tractors. The neighbors had a 4wd F100 that we'd had to borrow a time or two. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Pine green 280SE 4.5 on BAT

2020-04-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I always thought they were sort of “lumpy” looking. Very squared off. I don’t recall 4WD being all that popular on pickup trucks until the 80s or 90s. Back then if you wanted 4WD you would get a Jeep or an International. Can’t forget the awful paint schemes on these, either. A base color and

Re: [MBZ] Pine green 280SE 4.5 on BAT

2020-04-22 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Both body styles from the '70s were super cool though. I'd love to have one of the pre-73 models. Apparently they didn't make a lot of them in 4wd, I see lots of 2wd but not many 4wd. It'd make a good camp truck if I could find one in 3/4 ton. -Curt On Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 2:41:35

Re: [MBZ] Pine green 280SE 4.5 on BAT

2020-04-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Like Chevy pickup trucks. I can remember how rusty those things were in the 70s. The wheel arches would rust out so badly it wasn’t funny. -D > On Apr 22, 2020, at 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > All cars of that era were notorious for rusting away. The dealers had to sell >

Re: [MBZ] Pine green 280SE 4.5 on BAT

2020-04-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Slight overstatement. On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 1:45 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > All cars of that era were notorious for rusting away. The dealers had to > sell cars quickly before they rusted away on the lot... > -Curt > > On Tuesday, April 21, 2020,

Re: [MBZ] Pine green 280SE 4.5 on BAT

2020-04-22 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
All cars of that era were notorious for rusting away. The dealers had to sell cars quickly before they rusted away on the lot... -Curt On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 1:41:36 PM EDT, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: they are getting rare in good condition -- I sent mine to the

Re: [MBZ] Pine green 280SE 4.5 on BAT

2020-04-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I guess the broken heater levers tamped down some of the irrational exuberance. Final price was $20,250. On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 1:53 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yeah, for a car worth that kind of money I find it telling that someone > wouldn’t expend the time,

Re: [MBZ] Pine green 280SE 4.5 on BAT

2020-04-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yeah, for a car worth that kind of money I find it telling that someone wouldn’t expend the time, effort or money to resolve the heater levers. It sort of cheapens the whole thing. -D > On Apr 21, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > The broken heater control valves

Re: [MBZ] Pine green 280SE 4.5 on BAT

2020-04-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The broken heater control valves are a red flag, though. On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 1:41 PM Peter Frederick via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > they are getting rare in good condition -- I sent mine to the junkyard due > to terminal rust. All the German cars of that age were terrible,

Re: [MBZ] Pine green 280SE 4.5 on BAT (Andrew Strasfogel)

2020-04-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I put the OE spring in my Finnie as a part of the restoration work I did on it. Pretty easy job, I think the spring was about $100 from Mercedes. Put new pads, in, too, but had to compromise somewhat because only one size is still available. -D > On Apr 21, 2020, at 1:45 PM, David Bruckmann

Re: [MBZ] Pine green 280SE 4.5 on BAT (Andrew Strasfogel)

2020-04-21 Thread David Bruckmann via Mercedes
They put in the wrong spring when the ripped out the hydropneumatic compensator. The Febi kit includes the "HD" spring, which causes the incorrect camber this car exhibits. You can still buy the correct spring from Mercedes-Benz, which is what I did for my '72 280SEL. Or if you're really lucky and

Re: [MBZ] Pine green 280SE 4.5 on BAT

2020-04-21 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
they are getting rare in good condition -- I sent mine to the junkyard due to terminal rust. All the German cars of that age were terrible, Russian steel for the most part. Ditto for W116s --- they were notorious for rusting away in Germany too. ___

[MBZ] Pine green 280SE 4.5 on BAT

2020-04-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Luscious color. I predict insane flurry of bidding as the auction winds up. At least in the 20s. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-mercedes-benz-280sel-4-5-11/?utm_source=dm_medium=email_campaign=2020-04-21 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list