Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-05-02 Thread LarryT
mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer Install a virtual machine system, run XP as a virtual machine -- drivers for XP become a non-issue. Vista is only used to host the Virtual Machine. http://www.vmware.com/products/ws

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-05-02 Thread Luther
You should try Virtual Box www.virtualbox.org It will allow you to control what resources the guest OS uses and will allow file sharing between the guest (more than one at once) and the host OS. Luther LarryT wrote: Thank you Don!! I am installing XP on a virtual drive at this moment! It

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-05-02 Thread OK Don
The next version of virtual PC, that will come with (or shortly after) Windows 7 will allow applications running in a virtual machine to look like native apps on the host OS. Also known as Med-V in the MDOP set. FWIW, Windows 7 RC1 seems fast! Just installed it last night, no apps yet, so it's too

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-27 Thread LarryT
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer LarryT wrote: Doing the reverse will not work either - installing Vista 1st will work but then XP cannot be installed because the OS will say the OS installed

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-22 Thread LarryT
down and you might as well forget about playing. Manfred Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:47:36 -0400 From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net Subject: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer Hi Tim - Thx but no thx - it sounds too complicated for no improvement in performance. You didn't mention

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-22 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote: Doing the reverse will not work either - installing Vista 1st will work but then XP cannot be installed because the OS will say the OS installed is newer than the OS being attempted to install! Well, damn! I'm running dual boot on dual hard drives. About one hour ago, I

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-22 Thread Ed Booher
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: LarryT wrote: Doing the reverse will not work either - installing Vista 1st will work but then XP cannot be installed because the OS will say the OS installed is newer than the OS being attempted to install! Well, damn!

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-22 Thread Ed Booher
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I'm running dual boot on dual hard drives. About one hour ago, I ordered a 1TB drive, intending to transfer my Vista drive to it, then to install XP Pro as a 2nd OS on the drive. I'm not happy to learn that MSFT has

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-22 Thread LarryT
- Original Message - From: Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: LarryT wrote

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-22 Thread Curt Raymond
with *ahem* more budget conscious hardware... -Curt Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:27:46 -0400 From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] QRe:  Ext HDD, was RE:  OT -new computer To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 933ffa014ddf47db8651382db6cc8...@larrypc Content

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-22 Thread Curt Raymond
no less. This is a very high end laptop though... It seems strange to me that I'm defending Microsoft but when you work for a manufacturer I guess you develop a level of empathy... -Curt Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:37:52 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] QRe:  Ext HDD, was RE

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-22 Thread Curt Raymond
disk but their computer is tagged with an OEM serial... We have a site license (which is a purchaseable type serial) for XP and I've gotten caught a couple times with only OEM disks... -Curt Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:40:39 -0400 From: Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-22 Thread Ed Booher
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:15 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Ed - I think I'd definately go the route of 2 physical hard drives if these weren't a laptop. I already have several hard drives for laptops so if I could do it this way using USB ext encl or HD docking station I

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-22 Thread Douglas
I have a dual boot system that I first installed XP then Vista, followed with Windows 7. yes its easy with multiple hard drives though you should be able to create a partition with a program EaseUS partition manager its free for home use.. then install on the new partition. Then use the vista

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-17 Thread LarryT
. \ HTHs LarryT 91 300D - Original Message - From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer If you do figure out how to get back to XP let me know. My daughter has

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-17 Thread Loren Faeth
LarryT 91 300D - Original Message - From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer If you do figure out how to get back to XP let me know. My daughter has

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-17 Thread LarryT
@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer A fully patched and updated xp copy takes something like 7.5.to 8 gb, so IMHO, it takes at least 10 GB for XP without a lot of software. In practical use, i consider 20gb to be the practical

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-17 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:22:10 -0500 Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: A fully patched and updated xp copy takes something like 7.5.to 8 gb, so IMHO, it takes at least 10 GB for XP without a lot of software I don't believe it is wise to run unpatched MS software. In setting up

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-17 Thread Loren Faeth
I agree that 20 Gb is a practical Min size for Windows OS. 7.6 GB for the install leaves less than 25% free space on a 10 gb partition, and is a ticking time bomb. There are clever ways to do minimalist installs, but that is another matter and not for the faint of heart. IN my experience,

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-17 Thread MG
Thanks Larry, I'll forward this to my daughter as more options. Manfred Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:18:20 -0400 From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer There are a couple of ways. I've been fighting this for a while and think I have found

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-17 Thread Jim Cathey
I don't believe it is wise to run unpatched MS software. I don't believe it is wise to run their _patched_ software, either. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-17 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:49:44 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I don't believe it is wise to run unpatched MS software. I don't believe it is wise to run their _patched_ software, either. Which I why I run Linux. Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-17 Thread OK Don
Which I wouldn't (and don't) run unpatched either. Patch everything! I don't believe it is wise to run unpatched MS software. I don't believe it is wise to run their _patched_ software, either. Which I why I run Linux. -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos KD5NRO The important

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-13 Thread MG
Thanks Kaleb, My daughter will be working on it as soon as she gets the computer back. I put it into the mail to her last Sat. so she should be getting it very soon. Manfred Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 17:00:16 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD

[MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-12 Thread MG
playing. Manfred Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:47:36 -0400 From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net Subject: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer Hi Tim - Thx but no thx - it sounds too complicated for no improvement in performance. You didn't mention if it would improve security but I doubt

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I went back to XP on my new computer that came with Vista. AFter I got it installed there were a couple of things that did not work correctly. I simply noted what they were and went to the manufacturer or whatever hardware it was (sound, video etc) and downloaded the xp drivers there. Works

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-12 Thread MG
Apr 2009 10:18:31 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer I went back to XP on my new computer that came with Vista. AFter I got it installed there were a couple of things that did not work correctly. I simply noted what

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-12 Thread OK Don
Install a virtual machine system, run XP as a virtual machine -- drivers for XP become a non-issue. Vista is only used to host the Virtual Machine. http://www.vmware.com/products/ws/ $189 http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.mspx Free On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
makes it impossible for the drivers from the video or whatever chip manufacturers to work right. Still it's the only hope we have. Manfred Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:18:31 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer I went back

[MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread LarryT
Hi Tim - Thx but no thx - it sounds too complicated for no improvement in performance. You didn't mention if it would improve security but I doubt it,. You're right about the configuration - presently the Ext HD is shown as a drive in the desktop. And when on the desktop I see it like