Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-06-01 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
, May 31, 2010 11:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house Of course, it's entirely possible someone decided to cut the holes and didn't bother to tell any of those responsible for the structural integrity of the building they were going to do so. Every organization I've

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-31 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Sniff... Sniff... Is that burnt retina I smell? Walt, who beleives that there is no such thing as ID10T proof On May 31, 2010 1:47 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Yep, we say that checking to see if a [single mode fiber] strand is lit by looking into it is the sort of mistake you

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-31 Thread Mitch Haley
Walt Zarnoch wrote: Walt, who beleives that there is no such thing as ID10T proof The efforts to idiot proof everything just help to selectively breed a superior strain of idiots. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-31 Thread John Reames
I am sure that there are more than a few of us who have thoughts regarding the implementation of selective breeding resulting from the combination of human nature and policies enacted by the unwitting... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-31 Thread Donald Snook
John R. wrote: Who signed off on those drawings? Wile E. Coyote (Sooper Genius) perchance? The Engineer is blaming the contractor, the contractor is blaming the engineer, everyone is blaming the architect. We are lucky, we represent the school system. All we know is somebody screwed up big

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-31 Thread LarryT
] Snooks house John R. wrote: Who signed off on those drawings? Wile E. Coyote (Sooper Genius) perchance? The Engineer is blaming the contractor, the contractor is blaming the engineer, everyone is blaming the architect. We are lucky, we represent the school system. All we know is somebody

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-31 Thread Peter Frederick
Of course, it's entirely possible someone decided to cut the holes and didn't bother to tell any of those responsible for the structural integrity of the building they were going to do so. Every organization I've been a part of has at least one person who simply cannot breathe if they

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-31 Thread LarryT
: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 11:45 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house Of course, it's entirely possible someone decided to cut the holes and didn't bother to tell any of those responsible for the structural

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-31 Thread LWB250
That's odd, as most school systems require 2-3 years classroom experience for administration positions.  The ones I've worked for did Dan --- On Mon, 5/31/10, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-31 Thread R A Bennell
: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house Shingling a roof like that is not easy. My garage has a 91/2 in 12 pitch and you cannot really stand on it. Rubber-soled tennis shoes will do it. Has to be rubber, not one of the ubiquitous plastic composites. Or maybe something exotic like a rock climbing shoe

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-31 Thread LarryT
...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 12:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house That's odd, as most school systems require 2-3 years classroom experience for administration positions. The ones I've worked for did Dan --- On Mon, 5/31/10, LarryT

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-31 Thread LWB250
be considered (screened) for an administrative position required three years classroom experience and a master's degree. Dan --- On Mon, 5/31/10, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-31 Thread R A Bennell
much. G Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 12:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house Well, on the other hand, there is a superintendent

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-31 Thread Peter Frederick
Let's not get started and the industry of education academics, I'll got on all day. Sadly, this is not limited to education, either -- most businesses suffer from all the administrative (read high paid large bonus) people being MBAs, the most useless pseudo-academic endeavour known to

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-31 Thread Jim Cathey
But you had best hope none of the shingle granules are loose or it is like ball bearings. Yep! (No granules on our cedar barn roof, but a loose shingle was a wild ride... The uninsulated 220V power lines to the well pump would break your fall to the ground though.) -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now microwaves

2010-05-30 Thread MG
I hope you used some old Mercedes body sheet metal for that. After all turnabout is fair play. Manfred Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 23:38:55 -0500 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now microwaves My Panasonic with a direct drive turntable is about to turn 18 years old

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now microwaves

2010-05-30 Thread Fmiser
MG wrote: I hope you used some old Mercedes body sheet metal for that. After all turnabout is fair play. *chuckle* I was actually thinking about that as I cut up the VCR case I salvaged about 10 years ago. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-30 Thread John Reames
Yep, we say that checking to see if a [single mode fiber] strand is lit by looking into it is the sort of mistake you can only make twice... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 29, 2010, at 22:19, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now microwaves

2010-05-30 Thread John Reames
Was the repair plate made from a bit of fender or a bit of exhaust system? :) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 30, 2010, at 0:38, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Walt Zarnoch wrote: Did I mention I hate turntable microwaves? Yeah, I hate

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now microwaves

2010-05-30 Thread John Reames
Speaking of standing waves, there is some d...@home science experiment/ instruction that uses a uWave oven to calculate the speed of light... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 30, 2010, at 0:38, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Walt Zarnoch

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now microwaves

2010-05-30 Thread John Reames
I remember my parents having an old litton unit with one of those stirrers in the top... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 30, 2010, at 1:07, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: Our DualWave has a spinning antenna that's mounted in the

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-29 Thread Mitch Haley
John Reames wrote: Lower pitch roofs can leak when wind blows water up under the shingles... For a loose roof like slate, 4/12 is the absolute minimum, but having experienced a 4/12 slate roof, I wouldn't touch one that was less than 6/12. Shakes would be much the same. The slate went away

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-29 Thread John Reames
...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 12:51 PM To: 'Mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house Wilton wrote: Architects usually hire engineers to make their dream child work. We are working on a case right now where the engineers and the architects both

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-29 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 29 May 2010 10:10:56 -0400 John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: But then maybe the designers do not realize that most wireless networking is done in the 2.4GHz range, which is approximately the resonant frequency of water... Actually, no, 2.4 GHz is not approximately the

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now microwaves

2010-05-29 Thread Rich Thomas
I thought that microwave ovens ran at that freq (or 2450 MHz) so they could jiggle up water easily? --R On 5/29/2010 12:53 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sat, 29 May 2010 10:10:56 -0400 John Reamesjwrea...@comcast.net wrote: But then maybe the designers do not realize that most wireless

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now microwaves

2010-05-29 Thread Rich Thomas
OK I answered my own question, if wikipedia is to be trusted. It is actually more interesting than resonance! --R On 5/29/2010 1:41 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I thought that microwave ovens ran at that freq (or 2450 MHz) so they could jiggle up water easily? --R On 5/29/2010 12:53 PM, Craig

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now microwaves

2010-05-29 Thread Rich Thomas
OK I answered my own question, if wikipedia is to be trusted. It is actually more interesting than resonance! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_oven --R On 5/29/2010 1:41 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I thought that microwave ovens ran at that freq (or 2450 MHz) so they could jiggle up water

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now microwaves

2010-05-29 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 29 May 2010 13:41:04 -0400 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I thought that microwave ovens ran at that freq (or 2450 MHz) so they could jiggle up water easily? They jiggle water, but the frequency was chosen for other considerations (you can't generate

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now microwaves

2010-05-29 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Long live the RADAR range! Walt, who needs to have some self control with his email :p On May 29, 2010 2:03 PM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 29 May 2010 13:41:04 -0400 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I th... They jiggle water, but the frequency

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now microwaves

2010-05-29 Thread Rich Thomas
A guy I used to work with had an original Amana Radarange, the first one to come out. Thing was about the size of a steamer trunk, weighed about 150lb, and he said it worked like a charm many years on. --R On 5/29/2010 5:51 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: Long live the RADAR range! Walt, who needs

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now microwaves

2010-05-29 Thread Walt Zarnoch
We've got an 84 or 85 vintage GE DualWave microwave, my parents got it the year they were married and it's been resurected at least twice since. (Resoldered control board conformal coated it, and a replacement HV transformer due to arc-over. The lightbulb died this year when we moved it to the

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now microwaves

2010-05-29 Thread WILTON
, 2010 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now microwaves A guy I used to work with had an original Amana Radarange, the first one to come out. Thing was about the size of a steamer trunk, weighed about 150lb, and he said it worked like a charm many years on. --R On 5/29/2010 5:51 PM, Walt

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now microwaves

2010-05-29 Thread WILTON
BTW, 'brought it home in the bomb bay of a B-52. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now microwaves I purchased an Amana Radarange at Base

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now microwaves

2010-05-29 Thread Walt Zarnoch
List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now microwaves I purchased an Amana Radarange at Base Exchange ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now microwaves

2010-05-29 Thread Kevin Kraly
What a hot topic (or off topic) this one has become! :-) Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now microwaves

2010-05-29 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Don't mention hot topic... that store is a waste of lease space... On May 29, 2010 9:37 PM, Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote: What a hot topic (or off topic) this one has become! :-) Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-29 Thread John Reames
It would be more correct to say that water (in things) tends to absorb rf energy I'm the 2.4 to 2.5 GHz frequency range, thereby increasing the average entropy of the water and what it is in. You need a decent size rf energy supply to really practically use this effect, so a few -17dBm

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now microwaves

2010-05-29 Thread John Reames
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now microwaves I purchased an Amana Radarange at Base Exchange ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-29 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Yep, takes a few KW of energy in a tuned enclosure to get it right, or some tard sitting in front of a TX dish if urban legends are to be beleived :p In all honesty, most forms of RF com are safer than driving, you usualy have more of a shock hazard from coming in contact with the

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now RF and nuke stuff

2010-05-29 Thread Rich Thomas
So on some fairly unrelated tangent, I once got to tour the VLF facility that is out in the middle of BF Nebraska. The antenna is like a mile high, and it was down for maintenance, so we got to go down into the room in the base where all the RF energy is created, or something (I have no clue

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now microwaves

2010-05-29 Thread Fmiser
Walt Zarnoch wrote: Did I mention I hate turntable microwaves? Yeah, I hate em... Hmm. I find they heat with fewer hot spots from the standing waves. My Panasonic with a direct drive turntable is about to turn 18 years old. Use multiple times every day. The only problem with it is the oven

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house now microwaves

2010-05-29 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Our DualWave has a spinning antenna that's mounted in the top of the cooking cavity (takes up an inch or so of verticle height) to get rid of the standing wave issue, and it throws from under the plate/mug/dish as well as the side. Very even cooking, even big dishes like a lasagna reheat. It also

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-28 Thread R A Bennell
PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house I saw only an occasional/rare architecture student in any of my structures/civil engineering classes at NCSU. On the other hand, I've always thought that I needed more training in aesthetics. Wilton - Original Message

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-28 Thread Donald Snook
Dwight wrote: On many/most of the FLW buildings the roofs leaked, etc. E.g Wingspread in Racine WI that was built for the Johnson (Wax) family. The FLW house here in Wichita is one of his last houses and it is the prairie style house. No odd water features like a waterfall. I have never been

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-28 Thread Donald Snook
Mitch wrote: Any house I build is likely to have a moderately sloped roof in two planes. Average these days seems to be six to twelve planes, with a steep enough slope to make it difficult to walk on. Wright seemed to like to build with cubes. My house has an EXTREMELY steep pitched roof. I

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-28 Thread Donald Snook
Wilton wrote: Architects usually hire engineers to make their dream child work. We are working on a case right now where the engineers and the architects both had their heads up their respective asses. The City of Wichita passed a bond to rebuild/renovate some schools. One of the schools was

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-28 Thread R A Bennell
on the roof. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 12:44 PM To: 'Mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house Mitch wrote: Any house I build is likely to have

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-28 Thread R A Bennell
PM To: 'Mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house Wilton wrote: Architects usually hire engineers to make their dream child work. We are working on a case right now where the engineers and the architects both had their heads up their respective asses. The City of Wichita passed

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-28 Thread LWB250
only went after the contractor's EO insurance limit. Dan --- On Fri, 5/28/10, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house To: 'Mercedes@okiebenz.com' Mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 2:50 PM Wilton wrote: Architects

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-28 Thread Rich Thomas
later the cracks that developed in the floors and walls were so bad they demolished the whole structure. The board only went after the contractor's EO insurance limit. Dan --- On Fri, 5/28/10, Donald Snookdsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: From: Donald Snookdsn...@mtsqh.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-28 Thread John Reames
Lower pitch roofs can leak when wind blows water up under the shingles... For a loose roof like slate, 4/12 is the absolute minimum, but having experienced a 4/12 slate roof, I wouldn't touch one that was less than 6/12. Shakes would be much the same. The slate went away when a new roof

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-28 Thread John Reames
Who signed off on those drawings? Wile E. Coyote (Sooper Genius) perchance? -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 28, 2010, at 14:50, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: Wilton wrote: Architects usually hire engineers to make their dream

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-28 Thread Jim Cathey
Shingling a roof like that is not easy. My garage has a 91/2 in 12 pitch and you cannot really stand on it. Rubber-soled tennis shoes will do it. Has to be rubber, not one of the ubiquitous plastic composites. Or maybe something exotic like a rock climbing shoe. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-27 Thread Donald Snook
Kaleb wrote: I will never live anywhere with a HOA The houses I prefer are in neighborhoods that are usually too old for HOA. Although, we do have a few restrictive covenants in our current house. But, they are very mild. The reason for the covenants is that there is a Frank Lloyd Wright

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-27 Thread WILTON
Have they had to re-build/re-engineer the F. L. W. house yet to make it work? Wilton - Original Message - From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house Kaleb wrote: I will never live anywhere

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-27 Thread Donald Snook
Wilton wrote: Have they had to re-build/re-engineer the F. L. W. house yet to make it work? I don't get it? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-27 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 10:01 AM To: 'Mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house Wilton wrote: Have they had to re-build/re-engineer the F. L. W. house yet to make it work? I don't get it? Donald H. Snook

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I dont think I have ever seen any of your daughters, only your son. OK Don wrote: You've only seen two at a time -- one son (youngest) and three daughters. On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: you got 4 kids? I thought you only had 2.

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-27 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.netwrote: On many/most of the FLW buildings the roofs leaked, etc. E.g Wingspread in Racine WI that was built for the Johnson (Wax) family. And the famous Fallingwater in Pennsylvania is notorious for leaking from the day it

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Alex Chamberlain wrote: And the famous Fallingwater in Pennsylvania is notorious for leaking from the day it was built, from both the top and the bottom (i.e. mold and mildew as a result of it being built right on top of a waterfall). Are you suggesting that Frank Lloyd Wright was at

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-27 Thread WILTON
I think Falling Water needed extensive re-building/re-engineering a few years ago to make it really work right. Wilton - Original Message - From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house Wilton

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Mitch Haley wrote: Are you suggesting that Frank Lloyd Wright was (better) at art/design than engineering? Somehow the word better got left out of that sentence. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-27 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 10:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house I think Falling Water needed extensive re-building/re-engineering a few years ago to make it really work right. Wilton - Original Message - From: Donald Snook dsn

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-27 Thread WILTON
Uh, yes. BTW, it's more than a suggestion. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house Alex Chamberlain wrote: And the famous Fallingwater

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-27 Thread WILTON
More likely both. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house There was a FLW house near one

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-27 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
I think it is more than a suggestion-from what I understand it is a fairly established fact. And they leaked early on-Wingspread leaked right after it was built. Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- Are you suggesting that Frank

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: I think it is more than a suggestion-from what I understand it is a fairly established fact. And they leaked early on-Wingspread leaked right after it was built. Is that where 'Frank Lloyd Wrong' jokes come from? Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-27 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 4:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: I think it is more than a suggestion-from what I understand it is a fairly established fact

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-27 Thread Mitch Haley
All good architecture leaks. might have been Frank's philosophy, but IMO, a structure has to provide the basics of necessary function before it can be considered usable, let alone 'good architecture'. Any house I build is likely to have a moderately sloped roof in two planes. Average these

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-27 Thread R A Bennell
. Giles, Jr Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:56 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house I think it is more than a suggestion-from what I understand it is a fairly established fact. And they leaked early on-Wingspread leaked right after it was built. Bissell Cove Quahog Auto

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-27 Thread R A Bennell
That does not appear to be the way that they teach architecture. My elder son is just about finished with his Master's Degree in Architecture and he has often been critisized for being too practical. I think they should teach function too but that does not seem to fit with the university part of

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-27 Thread WILTON
@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house All good architecture leaks. might have been Frank's philosophy, but IMO, a structure has to provide the basics of necessary function before it can be considered usable, let alone 'good architecture'. Any house I build

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-27 Thread WILTON
Architects usually hire engineers to make their dream child work. Wilton - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house I think you have to accept that he

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-27 Thread WILTON
mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house That does not appear to be the way that they teach architecture. My elder son is just about finished with his Master's Degree in Architecture and he has often been critisized for being too practical. I think

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-27 Thread OK Don
Well, that could explain it! On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I dont think I have ever seen any of your daughters, only your son. -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-27 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 5:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house I think you have to accept that he was pushing the envelope so to speak and that the technology to make the designs leak proof was lacking at the time

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-26 Thread Donald Snook
Kaleb wrote: My house is 5 years old, I am right in the middle of have the flooring in the front entry area torn out and replace, the sill plate under the door replaced due to rot, the front door has to come out and be replaced. Lucky a friend of mine is doing the work and its only going to run

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-26 Thread pm7088
and pre-drill any nail holes. -- Peter Arnold Windsor, CT - Original Message - From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:47:11 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house Kaleb wrote

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-26 Thread Mountain Man
OK Don wrote: Who knows, big houses could be the root of the modern decline in civility. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it   ;-) Yeah, and the incline in spineless men. Think of it - you gotta give and take in the environment that you speak. Whereas, when all you need to do is run off

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
you got 4 kids? I thought you only had 2. OK Don wrote: Yup - 4 kids in a 1320 sq. ft. house -- still living there. On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: People used to raise their kids, more than 2, in smaller houses. Now days everyone needs a

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I will never live anywhere with a HOA LWB250 wrote: Heh. The tax situation just keeps getting better around here When we bought the house the taxes were around $9k annually, due to the most recent assessment taking place at the top of the boom (when the house was appraised at around

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
could be. OK Don wrote: In fact, it's my un-proven opinion that a few kids in a big house creates troubled, anti-social kids (brats). Lots of kids growing up in tight quarters requires learning to get along with others, results in a tighter knit family unit. Who knows, big houses could be the

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-26 Thread Walt Zarnoch
I'm reminded of Gladys Sharp from the movie Over the Hedge... The homeowners charter, which you signed, says the grass is supposed to be two inches, and according to my measuring stick, yours is two-point-five. A HOA can be good I supose, but eh, I like freedom in the middle of nowheres :) Walt,

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-26 Thread OK Don
You've only seen two at a time -- one son (youngest) and three daughters. On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: you got 4 kids? I thought you only had 2. -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-26 Thread Lwb250
Our HOA isn't bad - certainly not as bad as the one in Florida was. If it wasn't for having to write them a check once a year, I wouldn't even know we had one Dan Sent from my iPod On May 26, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I will never live anywhere with a

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-25 Thread Curt Raymond
The American dream. My wife and I do just fine in 900sq with a dog. The people who loved there before us raised 2 kids. Curt Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 11:31:09 -0400From: Mitch Haley To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Snook s house, was: I found the button haveMessage-ID:

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-25 Thread Rich Thomas
Only 2 kids huh? How long did they love there? --R On 5/25/2010 1:06 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: The American dream. My wife and I do just fine in 900sq with a dog. The people who loved there before us raised 2 kids. Curt Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 11:31:09 -0400From: Mitch Haley To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-25 Thread Donald Snook
Mitch wrote: Can you imagine a family of two selling their 2150 square foot home because it's not big enough and they hope to have children some day? Well, Yes! :) I can certainly imagine it because the house we are probably going to buy is 3000 Sq. ft. and there is just the two of us and no

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-25 Thread Donald Snook
Curt wrote: The American dream. My wife and I do just fine in 900sq with a dog. The people who loved there before us raised 2 kids. Do you have a basement also? Our current house is only 1300 sg ft. on the main level and the bathroom is hardly used. We lived for too long in a 400 sq ft

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-25 Thread Curt Raymond
He built the house in 38, we bought in 06, you do the math. -Curt Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 13:51:35 -0400From: Rich Thomas To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks houseMessage-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowedOnly 2 kids huh? How long did they love

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-25 Thread Lwb250
I went from a 2300 sf house to a 4500 sf house. Plenty big, but if we had not bought it at a foreclosure price we would be living in a 3000 sf house or something similar... Dan (anyone want to buy my house?) Sent from my iPod On May 25, 2010, at 3:27 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-25 Thread WILTON
to this old house (3400 SF plus partial basement and full, walk-up attic) in town. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house He built the house in 38, we bought in 06, you

Re: [MBZ] Snooks House

2010-05-25 Thread Donald Snook
Randy wrote: 1. do you include the basement in the square footage? I roughly calculated the size of the rooms noted and come no where near the total listed size. 2. is the market so depressed that it is reallly only $158K? My house here in Winnipeg is 1800 Sq Ft not including the basement and

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-25 Thread E M
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house He built the house in 38, we bought in 06, you do the math. -Curt Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 13:51:35 -0400From: Rich Thomas To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks houseMessage-ID: Content

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-25 Thread Donald Snook
Dan wrote: I went from a 2300 sf house to a 4500 sf house. Plenty big, but if we had not bought it at a foreclosure price we would be living in a 3000 sf house or something similar... One of my partners (who makes a WHOLE lot more than I do), just bought a foreclosure house from the bank.

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-25 Thread Curt Raymond
Basement yes but like many houses of the age (built in 38) its short, 6 at the edge, maybe 5 10 in the center. The 2 things I d change on the place is to raise it 6 to make the basement more reasonable and enlarge the garage 3x so I could fit a car or two plus the 2 motorcycles, lawnmower,

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-25 Thread WILTON
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house Size doesn't matter, as long as you're happy loving there. ;-) hee hee. Ed 300E On 25 May 2010 17:54, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: My house was built in 1905, but my wife and I have loved here for only 22 years. I designed

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-25 Thread WILTON
BTW, is the word snickering, or sniggering? Here in Eastern NC, it's usually snickering. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks house Absolutely; I

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
People used to raise their kids, more than 2, in smaller houses. Now days everyone needs a bigger house. Curt Raymond wrote: The American dream. My wife and I do just fine in 900sq with a dog. The people who loved there before us raised 2 kids. Curt Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 11:31:09

Re: [MBZ] Snooks house

2010-05-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I would just forget about the fertility treatments. When you least expect it thats when it will happen. Donald Snook wrote: Mitch wrote: Can you imagine a family of two selling their 2150 square foot home because it's not big enough and they hope to have children some day? Well, Yes! :) I

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