Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
Here's my prediction: If he isn't found in the next few days the remains may not be located for a long, long time (years, e.g.) On 9/5/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't say for sure either way. I only know that a T-34 would flip around acrobatically as much as I'd ever want to

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-05 Thread Wonko the Sane
After which he will write a book posthumously. ... Would that make him a ghost writer? On 9/5/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's my prediction: If he isn't found in the next few days the remains may not be located for a long, long time (years, e.g.) -- LT Don

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-05 Thread R A Bennell
Maybe he doesn't want to be found right now? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 2:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett Here's my prediction: If he

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-05 Thread OK Don
Perhaps we need to use the Nepalese method to ensure his safe return - http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSEIC47086020070905 On 9/5/07, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe he doesn't want to be found right now? Randy -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies:

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-05 Thread Wonko the Sane
I would sacrifice a goat were it not for the name of my USCG aircraft. I don't want to sacrifice a plane to save a plane. On 9/5/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps we need to use the Nepalese method to ensure his safe return -

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-05 Thread Rich Thomas
I can see the maint log book: Electrical problem needs to be fixed Two goats sacrificed, problem resolved, cleared for flt The kicker would be if they then tried to roast the beestes on the plane for lunch... --R OK Don wrote: Perhaps we need to use the Nepalese method to ensure his safe

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-05 Thread Russ Williams
Citabria=Viper T-34=240D w/Auto Tranny That's how they stack up Wonko Russ W. On 9/4/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder how that stacks up against a T-34C in way of performance and fun? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-05 Thread OK Don
Bob Hoover would agree that smooth is the right way - remember the video of him pouring ice tea while executing a loop in a Commander? I don't doubt that the T-34 is a more aerobatic plane than the Citabria - however, my chances of flying a Citabria again are FAR greater than the chances of flying

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-05 Thread Wonko the Sane
Russ: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8867406238936808411q=julie+clark+t-34total=5start=0num=10so=0type=searchplindex=0 Don On 9/5/07, Russ Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Citabria=Viper T-34=240D w/Auto Tranny That's how they stack up Wonko Russ W. On 9/4/07, Wonko the

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-05 Thread OK Don
By the way - that's a Bonanza with standard tail and tandem cockpit. Don't know about the airfoil. The Citabria that Fosset was flying had a semi-symmetrical airfoil - great for aerobatics. You both need to read Bob Hoover's book - it's much more the pilot than the airplane! I love flying like

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-05 Thread Wonko the Sane
OK Don: Here is what I remember about the T-34 (circa 1981): 1. It was designed with the foreknowledge that 22 year old kids were going to abuse it while they tried to become fighter pilots. They were going to pretend they were in an Phantom when in fact they were in a trainer. The T-34 had to

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-05 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 22:15:12 -0500 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love flying like the video - but FAR prefer a few thousand feet below me a the bottom of the loop Uh ... yeah! That's pretty low. And with a lot of seagulls flying around. Craig ___

[MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-04 Thread RELNGSON
AVweb Breaking News Alert September 4, 2007 1:12PM AVIATION RECORD HOLDER STEVE FOSSETT MISSING Searchers are combing an area of western Nevada looking for adventurer Steve Fossett, who was reported missing in his Citabria Super Decathlon early this morning. The Nevada Record-Courier is

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-04 Thread John Freer
I am a non aviator, but I don't understand why any pilot would not file a flight plan with someone. On 9/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AVweb Breaking News Alert September 4, 2007 1:12PM AVIATION RECORD HOLDER STEVE FOSSETT MISSING Searchers are combing an area of western

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-04 Thread Darrell W. Sigmon
: John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett I am a non aviator, but I don't understand why any pilot would not file a flight plan with someone. On 9/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Darrell W. Sigmon wrote: John, take it from an old Army aviator, 15 years, 3000 hours, that when you are out in the 'boonies' you don't have any land lines to call the FAA. Now if you can establish radio commo with the FAA you can file. Can't you just write one up and leave it at your

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-04 Thread Darrell W. Sigmon
Mitch, that's better than nothing DWS - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett Darrell W. Sigmon wrote: John, take it from an old Army

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-04 Thread OK Don
When you're going to explore lots of square miles, all you can tell them is I'll be back for supper --- not much more effective than what he did. The lack of signal from the emergency locater beacon is most disturbing. On 9/4/07, Darrell W. Sigmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mitch, that's better

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-04 Thread archer
What could have happened to the beacon? Bad crash? Gerry From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] When you're going to explore lots of square miles, all you can tell them is I'll be back for supper --- not much more effective than what he did. The lack of signal from the emergency locater beacon is

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-04 Thread OK Don
VERY bad crash, dead battery, or missing all together. I haven't seen what he was flying - it could have been anything --- On 9/4/07, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What could have happened to the beacon? Bad crash? Gerry -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies,

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-04 Thread Wonko the Sane
Fossett was flying in a single-engine, Citabria Super Decathlon -- a plane capable of aerobatics -- with tail number N240R, according to CAP. Fossett, though, had no parachute, which is required for aerobatics. (CNN) On 9/4/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VERY bad crash, dead battery, or

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-04 Thread OK Don
Nice plane - I flew a standard Citabria - the seat cushion was the parachute (though you could get standard cushions for it) - and it had a locator beacon - many years ago. On 9/4/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fossett was flying in a single-engine, Citabria Super Decathlon -- a

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-04 Thread archer
It was a Citabria Super Decathlon (aerobatic) He took along four extra tanks of fuel. Gerry - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] VERY bad crash, dead battery, or missing all together. I haven't seen what he was flying - it could have been anything --- On 9/4/07,

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-04 Thread Robert Rentfro
Wouldn't four extra tanks of fuel make an easy to find crash site? Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of archer Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 8:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett It was a Citabria

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-04 Thread OK Don
If they weren't empty --- It will cruise for three hours on a full tank - though I suspect he was burning more fuel than that exploring the terrain. Here's some info on the plane - assuming he has a new one. http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/content/specs/2004/super_decathlon_8kab.html

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-04 Thread Wonko the Sane
I wonder how that stacks up against a T-34C in way of performance and fun? On 9/4/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's some info on the plane - assuming he has a new one. http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/content/specs/2004/super_decathlon_8kab.html -- LT Don

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-04 Thread OK Don
I only rode in a T-34 once - and it was mostly straight and level flight. The Citabria is a much lighter and simpler plane, and that means more fun to me -- On 9/4/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder how that stacks up against a T-34C in way of performance and fun? -- OK Don,

Re: [MBZ] Steve Fossett

2007-09-04 Thread Wonko the Sane
Can't say for sure either way. I only know that a T-34 would flip around acrobatically as much as I'd ever want to do. Never flew a Citabria. If it is better than a T-34 than I'd never be the one to test its limits. This much I know from experience -- a T-34 will go straight up in the air (for a