Re: [MBZ] Struts/MBCA

2013-05-05 Thread Dieselhead
I have an area director that was in my corner the whole time, and he is willing to vouch for me whenever I would want to return. I am invited to all of the chapter events and have always been welcome. Ah, Yes, the Kathy Vs. the hoity toitys era. A sad time for MBCA.

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-05 Thread Dieselhead
You are banned from the MBCA forum? Why? Sent from my iPhone He was too clean for 'em! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery opti

Re: [MBZ] Struts/MBCA

2013-05-05 Thread Dan Penoff
I have an area director that was in my corner the whole time, and he is willing to vouch for me whenever I would want to return. I am invited to all of the chapter events and have always been welcome. I just don't have the time nor the inclination. The whole tenor of the organization and the

Re: [MBZ] Struts/MBCA

2013-05-05 Thread Bob Rentfro
Ah yes...the good old days.I'm sure there has been an entire regime change out and list have been lost. You could join the forums as "Martha". Bob R On May 5, 2013 7:33 AM, "Dan Penoff" wrote: > No. I am banned for life from the MBCA. > > Long story that I am not going to get into here. In

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-05 Thread Dan Penoff
I still have an MBCA license plate frame that has been tastefully altered that says "MBCA" across the top and "Sucks" across the bottom. The local chapter folks have seen it and think it's a hoot. Dan On May 5, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > He is not omit banned from the foru

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
He is not omit banned from the forum he is banned from mbca in general, as are a few other people I know. Sent from my iPhone On May 5, 2013, at 8:56 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: > You are banned from the MBCA forum? Why? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 5, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Dan Penoff

Re: [MBZ] Struts/MBCA

2013-05-05 Thread Dan Penoff
No. I am banned for life from the MBCA. Long story that I am not going to get into here. In a nutshell, the MBCA in the late 1990s was very fragmented and run by a small group of people for their own per$onal benefit. Some of us challenged them and in the process were banned. I was one of a

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-05 Thread dseretakis
You are banned from the MBCA forum? Why? Sent from my iPhone On May 5, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > I noticed that Charlie Hart is a moderator, too. Haven't talked to him in > some years. > > Dan > > > On May 4, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Max wrote: > >> Just the diesel forum. >> >> Dan

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-05 Thread Dan Penoff
I noticed that Charlie Hart is a moderator, too. Haven't talked to him in some years. Dan On May 4, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Max wrote: > Just the diesel forum. > > Dan Penoff wrote: > >> Of what? The MBCA forums? >> >> Dan, banned for life from MBCA >> >> Sent from my iPad __

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-04 Thread MG
Yeah I started thinking about that after I sent the message. It's been a while now since I did the work down there. Manfred Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 07:03:28 -0700 From: Jim Cathey Subject: Re: [MBZ] Struts > > Metal line connect everything from the leveling valve to the struts.

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-04 Thread Max
Just the diesel forum. Dan Penoff wrote: >Of what? The MBCA forums? > >Dan, banned for life from MBCA > >Sent from my iPad > > > >On May 4, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Max wrote: > >> Marshall asked me, from his death bed, to take over the moderator >reigns... >> >> Craig wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 03 May

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-04 Thread Jim Cathey
Metal line connect everything from the leveling valve to the struts. My struts definitely have rubber hoses going to them, it's almost exactly analogous to a brake system. The struts shift position as the suspension travels, so a hard line would be no good unless it had quite a coil wound into

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-04 Thread Dan Penoff
Of what? The MBCA forums? Dan, banned for life from MBCA Sent from my iPad On May 4, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Max wrote: > Marshall asked me, from his death bed, to take over the moderator reigns... > > Craig wrote: > >> On Fri, 03 May 2013 22:13:05 -0400 Max >> wrote: >> >>> That's it. Hopef

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-04 Thread Max
Marshall asked me, from his death bed, to take over the moderator reigns... Craig wrote: >On Fri, 03 May 2013 22:13:05 -0400 Max >wrote: > >> That's it. Hopefully the OP will agree to publishing in "The Star". > > Maxbumpo > Moderator > Mount Pleasant, SC > >Interesting. > >

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-03 Thread Jim Cathey
I wasn't aware that they could be disassembled. Mine did. Where did you source the parts for it? Local hydraulics supply. Had to take disassembled parts in, they measured 'em and pulled replacements off the shelf. So you are saying they are rebuildable? Mine was. I thought they were c

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-03 Thread clay
A fellow on the MBCA forums did a write up of how to do a rebuild. Expected head shaking by MBUSA folks about how you can not rebuild them clay On May 3, 2013, at 6:46 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: >> beginning to wonder whether the hydropneumatic struts themselves are the >> problem. They don't leak

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-03 Thread Craig
On Fri, 03 May 2013 22:13:05 -0400 Max wrote: > That's it. Hopefully the OP will agree to publishing in "The Star". Maxbumpo Moderator Mount Pleasant, SC Interesting. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to w

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-03 Thread Scott Ritchey
-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Struts That's it. Hopefully the OP will agree to publishing in "The Star". Dan Penoff wrote: >Found it: > >http://www.mbca.org/forum/2012-09-07/84-300t

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-03 Thread Max
That's it. Hopefully the OP will agree to publishing in "The Star". Dan Penoff wrote: >Found it: > >http://www.mbca.org/forum/2012-09-07/84-300td-rear-struts#comment-7223080 > >Dan > > >On May 3, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Max wrote: > >> IIRC Jim rebuilt a 126 strut. Recently on the MBCA forum a fello

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-03 Thread Dan Penoff
Where? I just looked in the W123 section and there is a guy who mentioned doing it but the thread hasn't been added to since. Link?? Dan On May 3, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Max wrote: > IIRC Jim rebuilt a 126 strut. Recently on the MBCA forum a fellow posted a > terrific step-by-step with pictures

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-03 Thread Dan Penoff
Found it: http://www.mbca.org/forum/2012-09-07/84-300td-rear-struts#comment-7223080 Dan On May 3, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Max wrote: > IIRC Jim rebuilt a 126 strut. Recently on the MBCA forum a fellow posted a > terrific step-by-step with pictures to rebuild a 123 strut. > > __

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-03 Thread Max
IIRC Jim rebuilt a 126 strut. Recently on the MBCA forum a fellow posted a terrific step-by-step with pictures to rebuild a 123 strut. Dan Penoff wrote: >Jim, > >Thanks for the information - it is quite helpful! > >I have never had to R&R a hydraulic strut, so I wasn't aware that they >could

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-03 Thread Dan Penoff
Jim, Thanks for the information - it is quite helpful! I have never had to R&R a hydraulic strut, so I wasn't aware that they could be disassembled. Where did you source the parts for it? Thanks, Dan On May 3, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > The struts provide no spring action, beca

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-03 Thread Jim Cathey
The struts provide no spring action, because there is no energy storage medium inside (unless full of air, and it went in at atmospheric pressure and would be compressed to minuscule dimensions by the base pressure). The leak holes in the strut's interior piston provide the bulk of the damping, b

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-03 Thread Jim Cathey
another set of two NEW accumulators If one goes 'flat' that doubles the pressure in the other one, which will beat the crap out of it in no time. Hence equal pairs. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-03 Thread Dan Penoff
So you are saying they are rebuildable? I thought they were crimped shut. Tell us more... Dan On May 3, 2013, at 9:46 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: >> beginning to wonder whether the hydropneumatic struts themselves are the >> problem. They don't leak, but I am not getting any cushioning going over

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
oh cr*ap. I wanted to buy some new toys. I am running out of options. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > beginning to wonder whether the hydropneumatic struts themselves are the >> problem. They don't leak, but I am not getting any cushioning going over >> potholes and there

[MBZ] Struts

2013-05-03 Thread Jim Cathey
beginning to wonder whether the hydropneumatic struts themselves are the problem. They don't leak, but I am not getting any cushioning going over potholes and there is nothing else to blame. Any way to test their resiliency (if that's the word)? I rebuilt one of mine that was leaking, and th

Re: [MBZ] Struts?

2012-05-02 Thread WILTON
;Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Struts? Can't say for sure on a 201, but i did that many times on 124s. So for once in my life I finally diagnosed something rather than just throwi

Re: [MBZ] Struts?

2012-05-01 Thread Dieselhead
Can't say for sure on a 201, but i did that many times on 124s. So for once in my life I finally diagnosed something rather than just throwing parts at it. The '84 190D "darts" which I believe I've complained about before. It'll rapidly want to shift right or left while going straight. In t

Re: [MBZ] Struts?

2012-05-01 Thread Curt Raymond
When you say boots you mean "bellows" thats what Rusty's site has anyway. Theres also "dust sleeve" which is a weird looking split ring of some sort. -Curt Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 12:17:56 -0400 From: Max To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Struts? anuvuhab Message-ID: Co

Re: [MBZ] Struts?

2012-05-01 Thread Curt Raymond
erick To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Struts? Message-ID: <280df520-14d0-45e5-8058-dd914cae8...@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed More likely to be the upper strut mount that the strut unless they are really sloppy and loose

Re: [MBZ] Struts?

2012-04-30 Thread Peter Frederick
like and its a distinctly rear end breaking loose kind of feeling. This is a front end darting kind of feeling. -Curt Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:42:45 -0500 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Struts? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=

Re: [MBZ] Struts?

2012-04-30 Thread Curt Raymond
links feel like and its a distinctly rear end breaking loose kind of feeling. This is a front end darting kind of feeling. -Curt Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:42:45 -0500 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Struts? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain

Re: [MBZ] Struts?

2012-04-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
your rear links are shot. On 4/30/2012 8:40 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: So for once in my life I finally diagnosed something rather than just throwing parts at it. The '84 190D "darts" which I believe I've complained about before. It'll rapidly want to shift right or left while going straight. In

Re: [MBZ] Struts?

2012-04-30 Thread Curt Raymond
The rub is that I don't want to pull the stupid thing twice... Could the shock still have reasonable damping ability but allow the wheel to twist? -Curt Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:00:18 -0400 From: Max To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Struts? Message-ID: Content-Type:

Re: [MBZ] Struts?

2012-04-30 Thread Max
You don't need to touch the spring. Pull the most suspect strut, test in accordance with manual (compress a required distance on a bathroom scale, measure amount of force required to compress). -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___

Re: [MBZ] Struts?

2012-04-30 Thread Curt Raymond
the front struts, they'll twist just slightly which seems to match in nicely to what I feel when driving, it feels like the front wheels are not well attached to the steering. -Curt Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 07:49:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Frederick Moir To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: R

Re: [MBZ] Struts?

2012-04-30 Thread Frederick Moir
is as it should be. Had to buy brake backing plates as mine were all rusted out in the center. All Hail Rusty! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. > > From: Curt Raymond >To: Diesel List >Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 9:40 AM >Subject: [MBZ] Str

[MBZ] Struts?

2012-04-30 Thread Curt Raymond
So for once in my life I finally diagnosed something rather than just throwing parts at it. The '84 190D "darts" which I believe I've complained about before. It'll rapidly want to shift right or left while going straight. In turns its tight and composed. I hoisted each corner in turn and wigg