Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up

2008-01-07 Thread Luther - laptop
The hose/nozzle is a vacuum operated shutoff inside the handle and will not allow "milking the hose". What's in the nozzle will drain, but the hose will remain full at all times. Luther, << wrote: >> Fmiser wrote: >> > I'm not going to loose any sleep over it. I suspect that in >> > most cas

Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up

2008-01-06 Thread Fmiser
> Fmiser wrote: > > I'm not going to loose any sleep over it. I suspect that in > > most cases, the amount of fuel left in the filler hose could > > be more significant than the temperature induced > > expansion/contraction. > > Unless the guy before you milked the hose after shutting off > the pu

Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up

2008-01-06 Thread OK Don
With tanks that are in the ground, I don't think this makes enough difference to bother about. And even with those above ground, it's rare that you will encounter temperature swings broad enough to matter. > > That matches my math... > > I'm not going to loose any sleep over it. I suspect that in

Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up

2008-01-06 Thread Mitch Haley
Fmiser wrote: > I'm not going to loose any sleep over it. I suspect that in most > cases, the amount of fuel left in the filler hose could be more > significant than the temperature induced expansion/contraction. Unless the guy before you milked the hose after shutting off the pump, the hose was f

Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up

2008-01-06 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Sun, 6 Jan 2008 19:24:06 -0600, OK wrote: > Great. Let's stay with volume - so the cuical expansion rate, > and lets' round it up to 0.1% per degree C. If you have a 50 > degree C swing in temp., that would result in a change in > volume of 5%. So if you buy it at a temp of 40C (1

Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up

2008-01-06 Thread OK Don
Great. Let's stay with volume - so the cuical expansion rate, and lets' round it up to 0.1% per degree C. If you have a 50 degree C swing in temp., that would result in a change in volume of 5%. So if you buy it at a temp of 40C (104F), and then it drops to -10C (14F) that night, the volume of fuel

Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up

2008-01-06 Thread Allan Streib
On Jan 6, 2008, at 3:30 AM, Timothy Robinson wrote: > Something I've seen at several stations is the attendants sprinkle > Comet cleanser or "Barkeep's Friend" on the stick to see an > accurate reading. Maybe it's nothing but I can't ignore the > accumulated abrasive that must be suspended

Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up

2008-01-06 Thread Timothy Robinson
t; Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 21:45:14 -0600 > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up > > It seems than at Fri, 4 Jan 2008 03:13:17 -0800, Zoltan wrote: > >> Now, I don't want to be one of those folks who perpetuate >> forwarded emai

Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up

2008-01-05 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Fri, 4 Jan 2008 22:25:36 -0600, OK wrote: > OK - someone needs to look up the coifficient of expansion for > Diesel and gasoline - how much does the volume change per > degree? My CRC is at home (I'm in Houston), and I'm too tired > to search the web for it. I found three answers

Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up

2008-01-05 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Fri, 4 Jan 2008 18:28:52 -0500, LarryT wrote: > It was written < morning when the > >> ground temperature is still cold>> > > And Allan asked < Maybe 4 or 5 > feet>> > > > Let's talk about this --- > > Water expands when cold - perhaps the only material to do so. > I'm don't

Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up

2008-01-05 Thread dave walton
Don't forget to factor in that diesel at the pump contains more kerosene in cold climates and during the winter - so you will get less mileage. -Dave Walton On Jan 5, 2008 10:45 PM, Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems than at Fri, 4 Jan 2008 03:13:17 -0800, Zoltan wrote: > > > Now, I don

Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up

2008-01-05 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Fri, 4 Jan 2008 03:13:17 -0800, Zoltan wrote: > Now, I don't want to be one of those folks who perpetuate > forwarded emails, but I just read this one and I bet y'all > could provide great feedback. Interesting reading. > *Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morni

Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up

2008-01-04 Thread OK Don
OK - someone needs to look up the coifficient of expansion for Diesel and gasoline - how much does the volume change per degree? My CRC is at home (I'm in Houston), and I'm too tired to search the web for it. On Jan 4, 2008 5:46 PM, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Water expands when i

Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up

2008-01-04 Thread Peter Frederick
Water expands when it FREEZES, not when it's just cold -- it contracts just like everything else up to the freezing point, whereupon it becomes much more ordered, and the crystalline lattice takes up more space than uncrystallized water. Diesel fuel and gasoline shrink when cold, and the pumps

Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up

2008-01-04 Thread LarryT
ERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Allan Streib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up > "

Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up

2008-01-04 Thread andrew strasfogel
iday, January 04, 2008 11:27 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up > > > Oh great, something else to worry about. :(( > > On Jan 4, 2008 10:52 AM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "Zoltan Finks" <

Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up

2008-01-04 Thread Zoltan Finks
el > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:27 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up > > > Oh great, something else to worry about. :(( > > On Jan 4, 2008 10:52 AM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "Zo

Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up

2008-01-04 Thread R A Bennell
d and parked. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:27 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up Oh great, something else to worry about. :(( On Jan 4, 20

Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up

2008-01-04 Thread andrew strasfogel
Oh great, something else to worry about. :(( On Jan 4, 2008 10:52 AM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > *Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the > > ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service st

Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up

2008-01-04 Thread Allan Streib
"Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > *Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the > ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations > have their storage tanks buried below ground. How deep are they? You don't have to get very deep before the u

[MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up

2008-01-04 Thread Zoltan Finks
Now, I don't want to be one of those folks who perpetuate forwarded emails, but I just read this one and I bet y'all could provide great feedback. I heard a long time ago the one about not filling up when the gas delivery truck is filling the underground tanks and believed it. Brian Here at the