Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to......

2011-12-27 Thread Scott Ritchey
, December 26, 2011 8:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to.. Mountain Man writes: > I have a clear-bowl racor here someplace. Somehow my impression is > that for small automobile diesel engines, racor is a bit overkill? Ya > think it is useful fo

Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to......

2011-12-27 Thread Craig
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 11:27:42 -0600 Rick Knoble wrote: > Sent from my AT&T rotary phone Cute. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change d

Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to......

2011-12-27 Thread Rick Knoble
On Dec 27, 2011, at 11:15 AM, "Randy Bennell" wrote: >> His position on the need for water >> separators, as one example. >> >> RLE >> >> ___ >> > So, was he for them or against them? I cannot recall. If it didn't come from the factory, your Mercedes does

Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to......

2011-12-27 Thread Randy Bennell
On 25/12/2011 5:21 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Marshall often said things that were not exactly true... Open to interpretation, let's say. His position on the need for water separators, as one example. RLE ___ So, was he for them or against them? I can

Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to......

2011-12-27 Thread Max
Hendrik & Fay wrote: >I am pretty sure that you are supposed to drain the fuel tank every now > >and then to get rid of any water sitting in the bottom of the tank. > > I prefer to practice good tank hygiene, and on the fall use a de-watering additive. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87

Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to......

2011-12-26 Thread Hendrik & Fay
I am pretty sure that you are supposed to drain the fuel tank every now and then to get rid of any water sitting in the bottom of the tank. Hendrik who has water traps but they never have any water in them Dan Penoff wrote: I agree with Jaime. This is another, "If the engineers at MB thought

Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to......

2011-12-26 Thread Dieselhead
RTW= rest of the world.In this usage, outside Germany Usually it means outside the US, where you have lots of choices of diesel vehicles, and choices of MBs and MB options (or lack thereof) that MBUSA says we can't have. Most of my choices would be "delete" On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 20:36:4

Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to......

2011-12-26 Thread Dieselhead
In the 50s, I'd agree with you. But by the 60s, the amount of testing that was occurring outside of germany was already significant. The cars that most of us drive, even W114/5 cars, were designed for lots of markets, and tested in them. And US market cars were adapted as necessary (by MBNA, or

Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to......

2011-12-26 Thread WILTON
al Message - From: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to.. A load of bad fuel is rare. I have a bad load of fuel maybe once in 10 years. One was a m

Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to......

2011-12-26 Thread Allan Streib
Craig writes: > On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 20:36:44 -0600 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> In the RTW, the fuel is not always good. > > RTW? Rest of the world, I'm guessing. Though MB was/is quite aware that they sell cars worldwide, not just in Germany and not just in Europe. Allan -- 1

Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to......

2011-12-26 Thread Craig
On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 20:36:44 -0600 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > In the RTW, the fuel is not always good. RTW? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive

Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to......

2011-12-26 Thread Curt Raymond
r. Of course with a 240D when you lose power you notice! A quart of Diesel Kleen (thank you 24 hour Wal-Mart) fixed the issue eventually. -Curt Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 18:45:47 -0700 From: Craig To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to.. Message-ID: <20111226184547.

Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to......

2011-12-26 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
In the 50s, I'd agree with you. But by the 60s, the amount of testing that was occurring outside of germany was already significant. The cars that most of us drive, even W114/5 cars, were designed for lots of markets, and tested in them. And US market cars were adapted as necessary (by MBNA, or

Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to......

2011-12-26 Thread Dieselhead
I agree with Jaime. This is another, "If the engineers at MB thought it was warranted, they would have fitted one to the cars." Dan One other thought about this: Fuel in Germany is always good. Electricity in Germany is always stable at 50 HZ and 240 or whatever the voltage is. This is

Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to......

2011-12-26 Thread Dieselhead
A load of bad fuel is rare. I have a bad load of fuel maybe once in 10 years. One was a major truckstop. one was an elevator pump your own, which is generally safe. Adding an additional filter is perhaps overkill, but a good water separator can save you a lot of hassle. Bad fuel comes in

Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to......

2011-12-26 Thread Dieselhead
If you get a load of bad fuel, it can pay for itself quickly. If your fuel is always good, you don't need it. How's that for a political answer? I ran the roosaMaster Filter on my 200D. I have not added one to later diesels. At the time, the Master Filter took out smaller particles than

Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to......

2011-12-26 Thread Dan Penoff
I agree with Jaime. This is another, "If the engineers at MB thought it was warranted, they would have fitted one to the cars." Dan Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > Yeah, what exactly is the issue here? > > We've had mercedes diesels in the family s

Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to......

2011-12-26 Thread Craig
On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 20:35:47 -0500 Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > Yeah, what exactly is the issue here? > > We've had mercedes diesels in the family since the early 80s and never > had water/fuel related issues, and always used factory filtration. > > Is fuel quality that bad in some parts of the co

Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to......

2011-12-26 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Yeah, what exactly is the issue here? We've had mercedes diesels in the family since the early 80s and never had water/fuel related issues, and always used factory filtration. Is fuel quality that bad in some parts of the country? Jaime On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 6:21 PM, wrote: > > ...Marshall

Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to......

2011-12-26 Thread Allan Streib
Mountain Man writes: > I have a clear-bowl racor here someplace. Somehow my impression is > that for small automobile diesel engines, racor is a bit overkill? Ya > think it is useful for 240D with clutch? The spin-on filter will trap water. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD

Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to......

2011-12-26 Thread Mountain Man
Dieselhead wrote: > racor is the normal add on choice. I have a clear-bowl racor here someplace. Somehow my impression is that for small automobile diesel engines, racor is a bit overkill? Ya think it is useful for 240D with clutch? mao ___ http://www.okieben

Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to......

2011-12-26 Thread Dieselhead
racor is the normal add on choice. But if you can find an escort/tempo dissel in a junkyard, they had a filter/separator/heater that worked pretty well. I like the stanadyne see-through as in John Deere (US not japanese) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to......

2011-12-25 Thread Rick Knoble
On Dec 25, 2011, at 5:21 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: > His position on the need for water > separators, as one example. You think they are almost a necessity, IIRC. Which one would you recommend? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] The gospel according to......

2011-12-25 Thread RELNGSON
> ...Marshall often said things that were not exactly true... > Open to interpretation, let's say. His position on the need for water separators, as one example. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list arch