Re: [MBZ] Tire changing sucks

2006-08-28 Thread redghost
I figured out that paying $10 per wheel was a waste, so PnP rims (with old rubber) got the PnP scissor jack and van for bead breaking. Then I use the large die grinder with cutting wheel on the sidewall, spoons to yank the bead away from the rim, and go to town. Breaks bead creates enough

Re: [MBZ] Tire changing sucks

2006-08-28 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that Jim wrote: I started on the worst of the bad tires, and after a whole lot of fooling around determined that there is a right and a wrong side of the tire to dismount first. Soapy water for lubrication is also critical. Yup. Always check the rim to see which side has the

Re: [MBZ] Tire changing sucks

2006-08-28 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that Jim wrote: And I suppose there's always spray ether and a match! Getting the fuel-air mixture right can be a bit of a problem. I have only tried that trick on one mounting situation. No, make the two. Neither time did it work as nicely as I was hoping/expecting. Usually I got

Re: [MBZ] Tire changing sucks

2006-08-28 Thread Jim Cathey
And some days, not so much. Finally got a chance to finish up the job, and the two 'new' tires just popped onto the newly-painted wheels quite easily. A little bit of practice, the right hand tools, and decent components makes quite a difference. Took about an hour, including mounting the

Re: [MBZ] Tire changing sucks

2006-08-28 Thread Dave Wakin
Someone mentioned the HF tire changer to do this job - I bought one a few years ago and it works well for removing the tires, a little harder to put them on. It is not designed as best it could be, and I have altered it a bit to work better. One bad thing is that it is hard on your rims, and

Re: [MBZ] Tire changing sucks

2006-08-27 Thread Peter Frederick
Yeah, I've changed a couple by hand. I now take them to a tire store and pay for it, saves lots of work. Unless you have the right tools, it's a real chore! Peter

Re: [MBZ] Tire changing sucks

2006-08-27 Thread Jim Cathey
I now take them to a tire store and pay for it, saves lots of work. Unless you have the right tools, it's a real chore! I bid on a Coats machine once. Didn't get it. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Tire changing sucks

2006-08-27 Thread Zoltan Finks
I always used to wonder just how hardcore a motorcyclist would have to be to actually repair a flat on the road - especially if it was tubeless. Nevertheless, I used to carry a tire changing kit and fix kit, and a little chingaso that allowed me to produce compressed air by turning the engine via

Re: [MBZ] Tire changing sucks

2006-08-27 Thread Jim Cathey
I like your idea of using the stabilizer foot as a crushing force though. Really works slick, when it works at all. And yes, Mitch is right - you have to get the opposing bead pulled in and sitting down in the middle trench to make any headway. Also absolutely imperative to start removing

Re: [MBZ] Tire changing sucks

2006-08-27 Thread Harry Watkins
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tire changing sucks Yeah, I've changed a couple by hand. I now take them to a tire store and pay for it, saves lots of work. Unless you have the right tools, it's a real chore! Peter

Re: [MBZ] Tire changing sucks

2006-08-27 Thread Tjohn
@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tire changing sucks Yeah, I've changed a couple by hand. I now take them to a tire store and pay for it, saves lots of work. Unless you have the right tools, it's a real chore! Peter

Re: [MBZ] Tire changing sucks

2006-08-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have a nice coats machine. Rich Thomas wrote: I saw in the Harbor Freight email ad some kind of tire changing machine for $30, have no idea how it works, but it appears to be maual (or you could go down to the local llanteria and have Manuel do it).

Re: [MBZ] Tire changing sucks

2006-08-27 Thread Peter Frederick
Power is nice, but the real advantage to a tire changing machine is that if will clamp the wheel down and give you a leverage point for removing the bead and will have a roller assembly for installing a tire. Beats the h... out of wrestling the whole mess around on the ground! Peter

[MBZ] Tire changing sucks

2006-08-26 Thread Jim Cathey
I'm trying to put a pair of decent U-Pull tires on my car trailer. (MB content: it usually is one riding on it. Also, I've got a spare tire issue on one to sort out.) The part of this job that went well was the bead breaking. I used one of the Mog's crane stabilization pods to step on it.

Re: [MBZ] Tire changing sucks

2006-08-26 Thread Rich Thomas
I saw in the Harbor Freight email ad some kind of tire changing machine for $30, have no idea how it works, but it appears to be maual (or you could go down to the local llanteria and have Manuel do it). http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=34542 --R Jim

Re: [MBZ] Tire changing sucks

2006-08-26 Thread Mitch Haley
I've know motorcyclists who would leave a tire in a hot shower for 20-30 minutes before mounting. When I work on boat trailer or lawnmower tires, I leave them sitting in the hot sun for a few hours first. A quick-stick and a spoon then make short work of the job. Car tires have very stiff

Re: [MBZ] Tire changing sucks

2006-08-26 Thread Jim Cathey
It sucks even worse when trying to break the bead on the former spare, which had sit on its side in the rain much too long. There was rust bonding the bead to the inner surface. It took an hour or two to break it loose. Though somewhat corroded, it's still usable as the spare wheel, IMHO.