Re: [MBZ] VPN, not political

2020-07-13 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Mitch wrote: > Maybe Kaleb is right to want to get Spencer off free VPN. > > https://www.cnet.com/how-to/best-free-vpns-5-reasons-why-they-dont-exist/ Absolutely!! https://restoreprivacy.com/free-vpn/ https://restoreprivacy.com/no-logs-vpn/ ___

Re: [MBZ] VPN, not political

2020-07-13 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> > > Mitch wrote: > > > Question about buying a VPN subscription: What's to prevent > > > multiple people from sharing a multiple device VPN account > > > and thereby drastically lowering the per user VPN fee? > > Dan wrote: > > Private Internet Access might allow that, I think the > >

Re: [MBZ] VPN, not political

2020-07-12 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Maybe Kaleb is right to want to get Spencer off free VPN. https://www.cnet.com/how-to/best-free-vpns-5-reasons-why-they-dont-exist/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] VPN, not political

2020-07-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
For your ISP, yes. However, the VPN provider can log your traffic (and many do), so if there’s an issue Johnny Law could subpoena the VPN provider’s logs to see what you were connecting to. Your ISP sees the VPN session and can see your ingress point, the VPN provider’s IP address, that is. I

Re: [MBZ] VPN, not political

2020-07-12 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Sun, July 12, 2020 10:12 am, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Private Internet Access might allow that, I think the subscription covers > everyone in a household. > > I use them because they don't keep logs. Not keeping logs is the whole point of VPN, isn't it? I would assume that when you're

Re: [MBZ] VPN, not political

2020-07-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Private Internet Access might allow that, I think the subscription covers everyone in a household. I use them because they don’t keep logs. -D > On Jul 12, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Question about buying a VPN subscription: > What's to prevent multiple

Re: [MBZ] VPN, not political

2020-07-12 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Question about buying a VPN subscription: What's to prevent multiple people from sharing a multiple device VPN account and thereby drastically lowering the per user VPN fee? In an extreme example, ten people who only use one device at a time could band together and buy a super premium $300

Re: [MBZ] VPN, not political

2020-07-12 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> > Scott wrote: > > What about TOR? > Mitch wrote: > > TorGuard? Nop. TOR (The Onion Router) is in no way related to TorGuard VPN. The "Tor" in TorGuard apparently reference "Torrent". TOR isn't a VPN, though is some ways it is similar. It is no cost, open source, de-centralized privacy

Re: [MBZ] VPN, not political

2020-07-11 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
https://www.torproject.org/ > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > Mitch Haley via Mercedes > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 1:13 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com > Subject: Re: [MB

Re: [MBZ] VPN, not political

2020-07-11 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Sun, July 12, 2020 1:07 am, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: > What about TOR? TorGuard? https://www.techradar.com/news/whats-the-truth-about-the-nordvpn-breach-heres-what-we-now-know ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] VPN, not political

2020-07-11 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
What about TOR? > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > Mitch Haley via Mercedes > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:57 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com > Subject: Re: [MB

Re: [MBZ] VPN, not political

2020-07-11 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
VPNs can and do use port 443, it's a common tactic to "blend in" with https traffic. You could try to watch what IP address it's connecting to, and block that. But that can become a game of whack-a-mole because the provider probably has more than one IP address. Allan Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] VPN, not political

2020-07-11 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-free-vpns ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] VPN, not political

2020-07-11 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Nope, he has an old samsung but it is not activated, he just uses it on wifi.  I assume he is talking about something with his xbox.  Well, heck, maybe it is something with the phone, I dont know. On 7/11/2020 8:49 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Does he have an iPhone? There's VPN stuff

Re: [MBZ] VPN, not political

2020-07-11 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Does he have an iPhone? There's VPN stuff in the settings menu but I've never tried to turn it on. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] VPN, not political

2020-07-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Probably. You just have to know what port they’re using, or just block everything outside of 80 and 443 and the usual email (25, 465 and 587) ports. A lot of VPNs use UDP 500. VPNs will often use different ports and IP addresses, so it’s really a game of whack a mole. If you know what VPN

Re: [MBZ] VPN, not political

2020-07-11 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Oh I am well aware of that.  Kid insists they are free.  I told him to get rid of it.  No telling what is going on there.  Is that something I can block with my router? On 7/11/2020 7:13 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Someone is paying for it, buddy. VPNs aren’t free that I know of. If

Re: [MBZ] VPN, not political

2020-07-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Someone is paying for it, buddy. VPNs aren’t free that I know of. If they are you’e giving up something for that privilege. -D > On Jul 11, 2020, at 7:50 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I was talking to the 11 year old today. I asked him what he thought about > Trump banning

[MBZ] VPN, not political

2020-07-11 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I was talking to the 11 year old today.  I asked him what he thought about Trump banning Tic Tok. I have never heard of this but apparently it is something the kids use these days.  He says he doesn't care because he has a VPN so he can just say he is in Canada.  What the heck does an 11 year