Re: [MBZ] W123/6 Brake Light Sockets/Stuff

2017-12-18 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I see plenty drivers staring down at the phone going 75-85 on rural interstates. Really stupid! Mucho Stupido! Personally, I see both Jim's point for rural areas and drivers who stowed the dumbphone. I also see and agree with Max's point for morons who operate a deadly weapon while staring

Re: [MBZ] W123/6 Brake Light Sockets/Stuff

2017-12-18 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 16:56:16 -0500 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > I should do that I did it to our 240D/3.0 and to one of Lt. Don's cars during the IowaQ in 2007. > > On Dec 17, 2017, at 4:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > > wrote: > >

Re: [MBZ] W123/6 Brake Light Sockets/Stuff

2017-12-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I've long thought that 123 had marginal taillights... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > > A 21 watt lamp is hardly blinding, much less four of them. The whole idea is to increase visibility. >

Re: [MBZ] W123/6 Brake Light Sockets/Stuff

2017-12-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I've long thought that 123 had marginal taillights... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > > A 21 watt lamp is hardly blinding, much less four of them. The whole idea is to increase visibility. >

Re: [MBZ] W123/6 Brake Light Sockets/Stuff

2017-12-18 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Why did this make me think of the autonomous vehicles in the Woody Allen movie “Sleeper”? -D looking for his orb > On Dec 18, 2017, at 1:15 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes > wrote: > > All the big lights and bright screen people will soon be ensconced in > automated

Re: [MBZ] W123/6 Brake Light Sockets/Stuff

2017-12-18 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
All the big lights and bright screen people will soon be ensconced in automated rolling coffins, where they will no longer need to see or drive themselves. Then the lighting will become moot, as all the cars will be linked in a hive mind. It will be us old farts who will remain in need of

Re: [MBZ] W123/6 Brake Light Sockets/Stuff

2017-12-18 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I don't think four brake lights are more blinding than two. But I agree with you that high efficiency bulbs encourage excess brightness, especially for those buying aftermarket 'upgrades'. It's the unfocused LED headlight bulbs that get my goat, followed closely by the fog lights that get

Re: [MBZ] W123/6 Brake Light Sockets/Stuff

2017-12-18 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Jim drives in a mostly rural location, where the majority of his roads are not lit at night. Dan drives mostly suburban, with well lit roadways. Two totally different environs. I drive in mostly suburban settings now, and see nearly every driver looking at their

Re: [MBZ] W123/6 Brake Light Sockets/Stuff

2017-12-18 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> > A 21 watt lamp is hardly blinding, much less four of them. The whole idea is to increase visibility. > I find two of them ample. (The second one is there for redundancy.) They are _highly_ visible already. So, 2x is not blinding? How about 4x? 10x? 100x? More lumens equals more

Re: [MBZ] W123/6 Brake Light Sockets/Stuff

2017-12-18 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I had no idea an 1157 was 21 watts, so I checked and it's 8w taillight and 27w brake/turn. Motorcycle headlights used to be 30/35w, no wonder they were useless at speed. Mitch. > On December 18, 2017 at 5:15 AM Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > > A 21 watt lamp is

Re: [MBZ] W123/6 Brake Light Sockets/Stuff

2017-12-18 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
A 21 watt lamp is hardly blinding, much less four of them. The whole idea is to increase visibility. -D On Dec 18, 2017, at 12:20 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: >> ...add a bulb, and now you have SUPER brake lights. > > Thus blinding people close behind you every time you are

Re: [MBZ] W123/6 Brake Light Sockets/Stuff

2017-12-17 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> > ...add a bulb, and now you have SUPER brake lights. Thus blinding people close behind you every time you are at a stop. When will this arms race of lighting end? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] W123/6 Brake Light Sockets/Stuff

2017-12-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
You know, there could be in the second gen W126 models, I don’t recall. If there was I never had a problem with it on my 350SDL, as I know I did the modification to it. -D > On Dec 17, 2017, at 5:43 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > I thought I remembered there

Re: [MBZ] W123/6 Brake Light Sockets/Stuff

2017-12-17 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I thought I remembered there being one in the '87 300SDL . . . maybe not. On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > No such thing in a W123 or W126. > > -D > > > On Dec 17, 2017, at 5:24 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > >

Re: [MBZ] W123/6 Brake Light Sockets/Stuff

2017-12-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
No such thing in a W123 or W126. -D > On Dec 17, 2017, at 5:24 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > And that doesn't make the "bulb out" circuitry very unhappy? > > On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> You can

Re: [MBZ] W123/6 Brake Light Sockets/Stuff

2017-12-17 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
And that doesn't make the "bulb out" circuitry very unhappy? On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > You can take a socket from a brake light and add it to the inner sections > of the taillight assemblies, as in where the fog amp is on the left

Re: [MBZ] W123/6 Brake Light Sockets/Stuff

2017-12-17 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I should do that --R Sent from iPhone > On Dec 17, 2017, at 4:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > You can take a socket from a brake light and add it to the inner sections of > the taillight assemblies, as in where the fog amp is on the left side only do > the

Re: [MBZ] W123/6 Brake Light Sockets/Stuff

2017-12-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
You can take a socket from a brake light and add it to the inner sections of the taillight assemblies, as in where the fog amp is on the left side only do the same on the right side as well. Tap into the existing brake light in the assembly and add a bulb, and now you have SUPER brake lights.

Re: [MBZ] W123/6 Brake Light Sockets/Stuff

2017-12-17 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
What is this break lite mod you write of? --FT On 12/17/17 9:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Anyone who’s got a W123 or W126 that wants to do the additional brake light modification, let me know. I’ve got three pairs of brake light bulb sockets I’ll put in the mail. Drop me a PM.

[MBZ] W123/6 Brake Light Sockets/Stuff

2017-12-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Anyone who’s got a W123 or W126 that wants to do the additional brake light modification, let me know. I’ve got three pairs of brake light bulb sockets I’ll put in the mail. Drop me a PM. I’ve also got the following I’m going to list on BW for the scroungers. If anyone wants any of this,