Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-20 Thread Jim Cathey
The trunk opened this evening. Weird. I've seen where the linkage between the vacuum actuator and the lock mechanism gets a bit messed up, perhaps this is part of your problem? It's got deliberate 'play' in it, so you can use the key, but too much is a bad thing. (As would be too little.) --

Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Max Dillon
From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, September 19, 2011 1:20:09 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock Max wrote: Did you break an original steel key or a copy? A copy. The ignition cylinder has been

Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Rick Knoble
Max wrote: If you order a new ignition cylinder, odds are good that it will come with a new steel key. Yup. That is what I hope for. Perhaps I can get the valet key also. But first I must get the trunk lid open... Rick Sent from my iPhone ___

Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Max Dillon
the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, September 19, 2011 12:34:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock I think that when the trunk key slot has been turned

Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock Message-ID: 1316437457.51819.yahoomai...@web180007.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I was wrong, owner's manual for a 123 says horizontal is normal position which locks/unlocks with CLS. This is opposite from my '95 E300 (124

Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Allan Streib
The trunk can be locked with the key, overriding the vacuum system. I don't recall whether this is horizontal or vertical but I think it's horizontal. In that case you are going to have to unlock it, you won't be able to use the vacuum system. How did you manage to break a steel key? Or was

Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Allan Streib
On Monday, September 19, 2011 4:44 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: If you order a new ignition cylinder, odds are good that it will come with a new steel key. This has not been my experience. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread WILTON
Can you depress the button? Wilton - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:46 PM Subject: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock I have a 1985 w123 sedan that SWMBO has been driving lately

Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Rick Knoble
Wilton wrote: Can you depress the button? Yup. Unfortunately depressing the button does nothing. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Dieselhead
If you order from Rusty, you get cyl and Key. On Monday, September 19, 2011 4:44 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: If you order a new ignition cylinder, odds are good that it will come with a new steel key. This has not been my experience. Allan

Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Rick Knoble
Or was this a hardware-store brass copy? Yes. Oops. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Allan Streib
On Monday, September 19, 2011 9:18 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: If you order from Rusty, you get cyl and Key. Weird I didn't remember it that way, but perhaps I'm mistaken. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Max Dillon
How many times? I only have experience with one, and a new key came with the cylinder for my '87 124 wagon. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: On Monday, September 19, 2011 4:44 AM, Max Dillon

Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Fmiser
Allan Streib wrote: The trunk can be locked with the key, overriding the vacuum system. I don't recall whether this is horizontal or vertical but I think it's horizontal. On a W123 sedan trunk, the default position is horizontal. Turn it clockwise 90 deg to vertical to be always locked.

Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread WILTON
I've always gotten a key with the 4 or 5 new cylinders I've gotten. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock How many times

Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Tim C
On one of the last nights of winter I locked my computer in the trunk. Same setup, wouldn't turn for anything. I sprayed lubricant and WD40 to no avail. Eventually I manhandled it open but it was just luck I didn't break the key. The next day it was warmer, lock turned easily. I put in some

Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Curt Raymond
Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock Message-ID: snt0-eas271f5c4302d884051982044dd...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wilton wrote: Can you depress the button? Yup. Unfortunately depressing the button

Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Randy Bennell
Up here in the north we use methyl hydrate to unfreeze locks. Can usually buy small squeeze bottles or aerosol spray cans at gas stations here in winter. More than once I have been low on fuel and unable to get the darned cap open to refill at the pump. I think WD40 might prevent freezing but

Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Rick Knoble
The trunk opened this evening. Weird. Anyway, I have no time to troubleshoot this until Wednesday or Thursday. I think the vacuum lock on the truck latch is sticking. I printed out all of the pertinent PDF's and I will have Mityvac in hand. Lock cylinders are on order from Q so all is well.

[MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-18 Thread Rick Knoble
I have a 1985 w123 sedan that SWMBO has been driving lately. She has been complaining about the trunk not opening right, so tonight I went out to take a look. The central locking system has not worked since I purchased the car (door locks, anyway). The trunk would not open, and the key slot

Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-18 Thread Max Dillon
Order a new VIN-coded key? Did you break an original steel key or a copy? Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: I have a 1985 w123 sedan that SWMBO has been driving lately. She has been complaining about the

Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-18 Thread Max Dillon
I think that when the trunk key slot has been turned horizontal, it is locked such that the vacuum lock is over-ridden, so that the valet key will open doors and operate the ignition but won't open the trunk. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Rick

Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-18 Thread Rick Knoble
Max wrote: Did you break an original steel key or a copy? A copy. The ignition cylinder has been changed, so one key is needed for the doors and another key is needed for the ignition. I will be calling Rusty in the morning for locks. Hopefully, I can get the vacuum system sorted and the