Re: [MBZ] W123 turbodiesel leaky injectors OMG

2015-01-03 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
But o5nky eat if it is WVO or SVO. On Jan 3, 2015 3:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You could eat off the return lines, they're that clean/new. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:45 AM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: i'd be replacing

Re: [MBZ] W123 turbodiesel leaky injectors OMG

2015-01-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You could eat off the return lines, they're that clean/new. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:45 AM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: i'd be replacing the return lines now for sure; if you got any of that stuff on the return lines, they may well be shrinking up, and start

Re: [MBZ] W123 turbodiesel leaky injectors OMG

2015-01-03 Thread ernest breakfield via Mercedes
i'd be replacing the return lines now for sure; if you got any of that stuff on the return lines, they may well be shrinking up, and start to pop off making an extra-special mess of the hood liner and everything else under the hood. i still didn't see howl old the return lines are; those

Re: [MBZ] W123 turbodiesel leaky injectors OMG

2015-01-01 Thread ernest breakfield via Mercedes
the return lines are not the metal ones *to* the injectors. and i don't think there'd be any cause to worry about an engine cleaner damaging a metal line, since metal is what most of the engine is made of. cheers! e On 31/Dec/14 13:04, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: You mean the bent metal

Re: [MBZ] W123 turbodiesel leaky injectors OMG

2014-12-31 Thread ernest breakfield via Mercedes
be careful what you clean the engine with; the stock return lines are pretty easily destroyed by many engine degreasers and cleaners. i didn't see how long it's been since you replaced the ones that are in there, but frankly, i'd just replace the return lines all with known new good

Re: [MBZ] W123 turbodiesel leaky injectors OMG

2014-12-31 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You mean the bent metal lines to the injectors? Or the flexible rubber/cloth lines between each injector? On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 3:21 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: be careful what you clean the engine with; the stock return lines are pretty easily destroyed

Re: [MBZ] W123 turbodiesel leaky injectors OMG

2014-12-31 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 turbodiesel leaky injectors OMG You mean the bent metal lines to the injectors? Or the flexible rubber/cloth lines between each injector? On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 3:21 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes

Re: [MBZ] W123 turbodiesel leaky injectors OMG

2014-12-31 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 turbodiesel leaky injectors OMG You mean the bent metal lines to the injectors

Re: [MBZ] W123 turbodiesel leaky injectors OMG

2014-12-31 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Simple. Don't touch the steel lines unless you are replacing or testing injectors. Replace the rubber hoses annually. Now, repeat it back to me. Slow down and repeat that, please. That's a lot to absorb... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] W123 turbodiesel leaky injectors OMG

2014-12-31 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Ascoltate e ripetete:) Sent from my iPhone On Dec 31, 2014, at 7:10 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Simple. Don't touch the steel lines unless you are replacing or testing injectors. Replace the rubber hoses annually. Now, repeat it back to me. Slow

Re: [MBZ] W123 turbodiesel leaky injectors OMG

2014-12-27 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Yes. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 27, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dimitri Sez: I have seen OM615 lines crack several times! Did they have the clamps in place? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] W123 turbodiesel leaky injectors OMG

2014-12-27 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
But very very high mileage car, circa 800K. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 27, 2014, at 1:51 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 27, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dimitri Sez: I have

[MBZ] W123 turbodiesel leaky injectors OMG

2014-12-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
As I was fiddling under the hood to disconnect the monovalve on the 1985 300TD I noticed that at least two injectors were soaking wet! Should I replace all 5 injectors or simply the defective ones? I don't have service records so can't be sure whether any were previously replaced. Is there a

Re: [MBZ] W123 turbodiesel leaky injectors OMG

2014-12-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Are you sure it's not the return lines that are leaking? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2014, at 11:43 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: As I was fiddling under the hood to disconnect the monovalve on the 1985 300TD I noticed that at least two injectors were

Re: [MBZ] W123 turbodiesel leaky injectors OMG

2014-12-26 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
12:43 PM Subject: [MBZ] W123 turbodiesel leaky injectors OMG As I was fiddling under the hood to disconnect the monovalve on the 1985 300TD I noticed that at least two injectors were soaking wet! Should I replace all 5 injectors or simply the defective ones? I don't have service records so

Re: [MBZ] W123 turbodiesel leaky injectors OMG

2014-12-26 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
If you don't have any luck with the return lines as other suggested and you go for replacement, then replace all the injectors. Or better yet, have them rebuilt by someone competent. But avoid those Indian bosch rebuilds, they're really horrible. I just confirmed this in a 240D I bought a few

Re: [MBZ] W123 turbodiesel leaky injectors OMG

2014-12-26 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
If you don't have any luck with the return lines as other suggested and you go for replacement, then replace all the injectors. Or better yet, have them rebuilt by someone competent. But avoid those Indian bosch rebuilds, they're really horrible. I just confirmed this in a 240D I bought a few

Re: [MBZ] W123 turbodiesel leaky injectors OMG

2014-12-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Great input - thanks. Clearly, I need to clean the engine and watch for the fuel to appear. The cloth injector lines are pristine; in every other case of leaky lines they were saturated (dark colored). Mine are still dry and white from one end to the other. This is a CA version 1985 300TD -