Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car?

2016-10-28 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
t Raymond > <curtlud...@yahoo.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:29 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car? > > The old forester with either the na 4 banger or the 2.5t and a stick > was extremely economical, roomy, quiet.Just a peach of a car. Tons of >

Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car?

2016-10-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
, 2016 11:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car? The old forester with either the na 4 banger or the 2.5t and a stick was extremely economical, roomy, quiet.Just a peach of a car. Tons of torque in the NA version at low rpm. Super practical. Fuji heavy

Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car?

2016-10-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
TPMS is required, I forget when it started. Likewise traction/stability control, I think. All the Japanese cars seem to have rear view camera since '15 or so. Spark EV, last made 2 months ago, never had it, wasn't ever available. Do the Spark gassers have it standard for 2016/2017? Mitch > On

Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car?

2016-10-27 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
The old forester with either the na 4 banger or the 2.5t and a stick was extremely economical, roomy, quiet.Just a peach of a car. Tons of torque in the NA version at low rpm. Super practical. Fuji heavy industries doing good things. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car?

2016-10-27 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
r 27, 2016 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car? It is reputed to be the best value in terms of initial cost and cost of maintenance/repairs. It also rates highly in reliability and resale value. If I have to drive a vergasser, it helps that it has all wheel drive and all the c

Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car?

2016-10-27 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I could be wrong here, maybe the Jetta wagon follows the Golf rule? It doesn't really matter I suppose... -Curt From: Mitch Haley <mi...@mitchellhaley.com> To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NE

Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car?

2016-10-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
They may be but they are required to have them. Even a $14k Spark or what not has them now. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 27, 2016, at 7:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > Nope - they are still an option if you go the build your own on the MB site. > > On Thu, Oct

Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car?

2016-10-27 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
It's still vaporware - too little too late. I need the replacement car the middle of next month. On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 7:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Those Cruze diesels are pretty decent and compare to the VW pretty > competitively > -- OK Don

Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car?

2016-10-27 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Nope - they are still an option if you go the build your own on the MB site. On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 7:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > All vehicles as of 15 or 16 I believe are required to have backup camera. > Those Cruze diesels are pretty decent and

Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car?

2016-10-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
All vehicles as of 15 or 16 I believe are required to have backup camera. Those Cruze diesels are pretty decent and compare to the VW pretty competitively Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 27, 2016, at 7:03 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > It is reputed to be the best

Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car?

2016-10-27 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
It is reputed to be the best value in terms of initial cost and cost of maintenance/repairs. It also rates highly in reliability and resale value. If I have to drive a vergasser, it helps that it has all wheel drive and all the cool (?) new safety features (pioneered by MB) at a reasonable price.

Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car?

2016-10-27 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Why a Subaru? I've thought about them since they build some of the few that can be towed 4 wheels on the ground. IMO it's the best kind to have when towing behind a motorhome since you don't need a dolly. Gerry On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 13:36:52 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car?

2016-10-27 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car? > On October 27, 2016 at 4:12 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > The price of TDIs

Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car?

2016-10-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On October 27, 2016 at 4:12 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > > The price of TDIs is way down. Somebody in Boston bought a 2005 DTI (see pics) for $400 yesterday. https://www.edgepipeline.com/MVC/Site/VehDet#vid=30437207

Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car?

2016-10-27 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car? OK Don wrote: > Yes, it is a good price, and no, I don't have to sell it. Are there concepts about good deals to be made for new owners? Maybe the luster is off W123, switching to veedub sounds good. No fear of that type o

Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car?

2016-10-27 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
OK Don wrote: > Yes, it is a good price, and no, I don't have to sell it. Are there concepts about good deals to be made for new owners? Maybe the luster is off W123, switching to veedub sounds good. No fear of that type of pollution here. mao ___

Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car?

2016-10-27 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Yes, it is a good price, and no, I don't have to sell it. I could keep it and $6700+ and get it "fixed" when they get around to it. We looked at the E250Ds, but they still want too much money for them and the Stealer here is really one of the best at emptying your pockets for maintenance and

Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car?

2016-10-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
What if you don't want to sell it? Is the price really favorable to you? Mitch. > On October 27, 2016 at 1:44 PM OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Yes - next month sometime. > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 8:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com>

Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car?

2016-10-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So what are you going to replace it with? Get a 1-2 year old e250, I keep hearing great things about that car Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 27, 2016, at 12:44 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yes - next month sometime. > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 8:53 PM, Kaleb C.

Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car?

2016-10-27 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Yes - next month sometime. On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 8:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So is vw buying your car back? > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* –

Re: [MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car?

2016-10-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So is vw buying your car back? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 26, 2016, at 8:24 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > Why the Class Diesel won't come to the US: > > "Last year, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) instituted an array > of new compliance tests

[MBZ] Want to buy a NEW Diesel car?

2016-10-26 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Why the Class Diesel won't come to the US: "Last year, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) instituted an array of new compliance tests designed to prevent automakers who sell diesels from gaming the system. No evidence of wrong-doing has been uncovered since, but Mercedes hinted it changed