Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat?

2012-03-09 Thread Curt Raymond
bject: Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat? Message-ID: <20120308233508.d122c109.fmi...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Curt Raymond wrote: > How about low coolant? Yup. I've seen that a number of times. I have not determined _why_ but it's only a

Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat?

2012-03-09 Thread Curt Raymond
headgasket anyway. -Curt Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 20:14:49 -0600 From: OK Don To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Air bubbles in the cooling system will do that --- no cooling at the sensor. On

Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat?

2012-03-08 Thread Fmiser
> Curt Raymond wrote: > How about low coolant? Yup. I've seen that a number of times. I have not determined _why_ but it's only a problem when the air is cold and the engine is idling. Then a quart or two (1-2 L) low is enough to let the engine get hot. --Philip _

Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat?

2012-03-08 Thread OK Don
quot;Curt Raymond" > > To: "Diesel List" > > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:50 PM > > Subject: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat? > > > > > > > Sunday morn we took my 78 240D to breakfast, then ran > > home for a minute. > > >

Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat?

2012-03-08 Thread Curt Raymond
d all of a sudden. -Curt > - Original Message - > From: "Curt Raymond" > To: "Diesel List" > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:50 PM > Subject: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat? > > > > Sunday morn we took my 78 240D to breakfast, then ran > home for

Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat?

2012-03-08 Thread Dan Penoff
Sorry. I came in to the thread late and gmail trimmed the posts Never mind. Dan On Mar 8, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Fmiser wrote: >> Dan Penoff wrote: > >> Could be a clogged radiator. This can manifest itself by >> running at proper temps at idle or low speeds, but at higher >> speeds temps cli

Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat?

2012-03-08 Thread Fmiser
> Dan Penoff wrote: > Could be a clogged radiator. This can manifest itself by > running at proper temps at idle or low speeds, but at higher > speeds temps climb above normal until the speed is decreased. Huh? The posted problem: Sunday morn we took my 78 240D to breakfast, then ran home

Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat?

2012-03-08 Thread Dan Penoff
:28 -0800 >> From: curtlud...@yahoo.com >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat? >> >> Its a 240D so the primary fan spins no matter what. It should cool the car >> off adequately at ~30F shouldn't it? Always has

Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat?

2012-03-08 Thread Rusty Cullens
t;Diesel List" Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat? Its a 240D so the primary fan spins no matter what. It should cool the car off adequately at ~30F shouldn't it? Always has in the past. I don't think the aux fan on this car has ev

Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat?

2012-03-08 Thread Rick Knoble
:10:28 -0800 > From: curtlud...@yahoo.com > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat? > > Its a 240D so the primary fan spins no matter what. It should cool the car > off adequately at ~30F shouldn't it? Always has in the past. I don't think

Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat?

2012-03-08 Thread Curt Raymond
"Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original make sure the aux fan is working. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz w

Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat?

2012-03-08 Thread Rusty Cullens
Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:50 PM Subject: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat? Sunday morn we took my 78 240D to breakfast, then ran home for a minute. As it was cold out I left the car running while I ran into the house. When I got back to the car maybe two minutes later the temp gauge was n

Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat?

2012-03-08 Thread Jim Cathey
Where exactly do I shoot or do I just pan around and find the hottest spot? Ideally the spot where the temperature sender is. But it's not too critical, the hottest (non-manifold!) spot will probably do. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat?

2012-03-08 Thread Curt Raymond
Hi Barry, Interesting test, I'll give it a shot. -Curt Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 23:16:35 -0800 From: "Barry Stark" To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Subject: Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat? Message-ID: <000201ccfcfb$65bf52d0$313df870$@net> Content

Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat?

2012-03-08 Thread Curt Raymond
t went all at once. I can't see a water pump totally giving up all at once with zero leaking... -Curt Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 22:13:37 -0500 From: Fred Moir To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat? Message-ID: <4f5823e1@verizon.net> Content-Type

Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat?

2012-03-08 Thread Curt Raymond
Where exactly do I shoot or do I just pan around and find the hottest spot? -Curt Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 19:02:13 -0800 From: Jim Cathey To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat? Message-ID: <1b04504c-68cb-11e1-98a0-000502d9a...@windwireless.net> Conten

Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat?

2012-03-07 Thread Barry Stark
Curt - I'm guessing a quick check of the gage would be to have someone watch the instrument cluster and pull the connector off of the temperature gage, note the gage reaction and then ground the gage connector and see if the gage swings the opposite direction. You can do this with a cold engine and

Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat?

2012-03-07 Thread Fred Moir
Curt. Use the IR thermometer that I gave you! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 3/7/2012 10:02 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Thermostats fail far more often than water pumps. They're cheaper and easier to replace, too. Using an IR thermometer on the head is the first test, though, it'll tell you i

Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat?

2012-03-07 Thread Dieselhead
Thermostat. Get one from rusty or stealer. No flaps crap. Sunday morn we took my 78 240D to breakfast, then ran home for a minute. As it was cold out I left the car running while I ran into the house. When I got back to the car maybe two minutes later the temp gauge was not quite pegged but

Re: [MBZ] Water pump or thermostat?

2012-03-07 Thread Jim Cathey
Thermostats fail far more often than water pumps. They're cheaper and easier to replace, too. Using an IR thermometer on the head is the first test, though, it'll tell you if the gauge is lying or not. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used part

[MBZ] Water pump or thermostat?

2012-03-07 Thread Curt Raymond
Sunday morn we took my 78 240D to breakfast, then ran home for a minute. As it was cold out I left the car running while I ran into the house. When I got back to the car maybe two minutes later the temp gauge was not quite pegged but definetly sitting at nearly the top of the swing. I ran it to