Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Run the treads and then wipe the inside of the pan out, the hole is plenty big enough to get my hand in... -Curt On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 04:22:41 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Good idea - as long as the oil filter is in the circuit before the bearings - bearings with

Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Theres no "gear" its fully hydrostatic drive. Apparently it won't roll if the tracks are on. To move one that's dead you yank the tracks and "ice skate" it on the wheels. Jeremy Renner had his running and left it in drive. The forward/reverse switch is in the center of the steering yoke. We've

Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-30 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Good idea - as long as the oil filter is in the circuit before the bearings - bearings with aluminum shavings tend to seize, in my experience. On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 3:05 PM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > I would consider using the self tapping screw with hex head. The screw has > its own drill

Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-30 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I agree, upon reflection, that RTV is probably better than JB-Weld/epoxy for a patch that is explicitly meant to be temporary. On Mon, Jan 30, 2023, at 16:04, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > I would consider using the self tapping screw with hex head. The screw has > its own drill bit built into

Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-30 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I would consider using the self tapping screw with hex head. The screw has its own drill bit built into the design... the hex head would let you use a socket on a battery powered drill. Once the drill makes the hole, the threads cut threads.. final torque them with an inch pound torque wrench...

Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-30 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 30/01/2023 12:34 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I've not had much luck with sheet metal screws going into cast aluminum. You'd have to be very careful about the size of the drill bit. Pop rivets? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-30 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 30/01/2023 12:07 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: The idea was to sheet metal screw a metal patch on. The JBWeld/tape is just there to seal the crack. Again this was a "get it out of the woods" idea. I don't know for sure yet if we can actually get the pan out while the engine is in

Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-30 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I've not had much luck with sheet metal screws going into cast aluminum. You'd have to be very careful about the size of the drill bit. On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 12:32 PM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > I would like to suggest that you hammer form a sheet metal patch out of 18 > gauge [18 gauge will

Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-30 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I would like to suggest that you hammer form a sheet metal patch out of 18 gauge [18 gauge will be thick enough to shrink or stretch to make a pretty decent fit.. ] Then use self tapping hex head screws to attach the "Patch", but pre-drill the screw holes in the patch so the self tapping screws

Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-30 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Clean the pan with mineral spirts then acetone or brake cleaner to get all the oil off the surface. Rough up the surface a bit with sandpaper. JB weld/epoxy your sheet metal patch, then tape all over/around with speed tape/flex sealing tape. Biggest problem will probably be keeping more oil

Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
It occurs to me that I should say "seal" the crack. It's not ever going to really seal, we'd just be trying to slow it down some. If we try that I think I'll strap a sled under the machine to catch the drippings... -Curt On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 01:07:10 PM EST, Curt Raymond wrote:

Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The idea was to sheet metal screw a metal patch on. The JBWeld/tape is just there to seal the crack. Again this was a "get it out of the woods" idea. I don't know for sure yet if we can actually get the pan out while the engine is in the machine... -Curt On Monday, January 30, 2023 at

Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-30 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
You need something that will stick and seal to oil soaked porous metal. Good luck with that. Our 300SDL slipped off the floor jack once when I was letting it down after changing the oil. The jack pad punched a hole in the cast aluminum pan, leaving three pieces plus the pan. I took it to a

Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-30 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Aircraft speed tape? On Mon, Jan 30, 2023, at 09:31, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: > Flex seal tape? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 30, 2023, at 9:25 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Actually, one of the thoughts to get it out of the woods was to clean it >> good

Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Hmm, if we got that route some tape on the outside would be bonus security. -Curt On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 09:31:55 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Flex seal tape? Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 30, 2023, at 9:25 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > Actually, one of

Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-30 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Flex seal tape? Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 30, 2023, at 9:25 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > Actually, one of the thoughts to get it out of the woods was to clean it > good and slap a sheet metal patch on with a layer of JB weld. I *think* you > could probably do enough to get

Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Actually, one of the thoughts to get it out of the woods was to clean it good and slap a sheet metal patch on with a layer of JB weld. I *think* you could probably do enough to get it the 3 miles out of the woods but you'd probably be dribbling oil the whole time... -Curt On Sunday,

Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-29 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
JBWeld then! --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jan 29, 2023, at 10:26 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > Welding cast aluminum should be interesting. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 29, 2023, at 9:53 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Get a patch welded on it >>

Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-29 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
The absolute key to successful welding of aluminum is having it pristine clean. Which means removal of oil in the pores of the casting in this case AND removal of oxidation. Once aluminum is truly clean enough to weld, it oxydizes [think rusts] very quickly. Aluminum oxide forms an insulation

Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-29 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Welding cast aluminum should be interesting. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 29, 2023, at 9:53 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > Get a patch welded on it > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >> On Jan 29, 2023, at 9:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> We must have

Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-29 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Get a patch welded on it --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jan 29, 2023, at 9:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > We must have smacked it on something. I'm not sure how, it's at the rear of > the front third of the machine and tucked up beside the frame. I think we > must have shoved a

Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
We must have smacked it on something. I'm not sure how, it's at the rear of the front third of the machine and tucked up beside the frame. I think we must have shoved a log up there just right and hit it while backing up... I'm 90% sure it's aluminum, so not rust I don't think. I found some

Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-29 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
So what happened to the oil pan? Rust hole or puncture or? Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 29, 2023, at 6:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > Last week we got a bunch of heavy wet snow, like 6 or 8 inches. It snowed > off an on all week. Trees down all over the place. We never lost

Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-29 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
good reactions Curt. On Sun, Jan 29, 2023, 6:10 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Last week we got a bunch of heavy wet snow, like 6 or 8 inches. It snowed > off an on all week. Trees down all over the place. We never lost power at > our house but we did lose one

Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Well I've long said that you learn a lot when things go wrong. With any luck I learned something yesterday. Even if it's that I probably should have taken a sick day... -Curt On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 06:26:51 PM EST, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote: Wow, that sounds like quite the

Re: [MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-29 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
Wow, that sounds like quite the mechanical dysfunction! Hopefully, y’all can get the machinery up and running with no more drama, and if there is more drama, at least you’ll gain even more mechanical knowledge/experiences. Kevin in Lexington, NC Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 29, 2023, at 6:10

[MBZ] What a weekend!

2023-01-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Last week we got a bunch of heavy wet snow, like 6 or 8 inches. It snowed off an on all week. Trees down all over the place. We never lost power at our house but we did lose one phase for awhile back on Tuesday. For the snowmobile club this means a LOT of trail clearing. The method is we take