Re: [MBZ] Why are the FEDS boycotting diesel cars? (used to be)Ford Diesels?

2007-01-12 Thread Bob Rentfro
Curt mentioned: Honda has a brilliant diesel marketing campaign in the UK based largely on an American radio personality... Whom is that? Bob R

Re: [MBZ] Why are the FEDS boycotting diesel cars? (used to be) Ford Diesels?

2007-01-12 Thread kevin kraly
I can't wait until we see the MB powered Grand Cherokee (which the MB dealers who have the proper tools won't be allowed to touch!) I guess it's just like the Dodge/Cummins situation. Only Dodge dealers can work on the Cummins engines, not the Cummins certified service centers who, no doubt,

Re: [MBZ] Why are the FEDS boycotting diesel cars? (used to be)Ford Diesels?

2007-01-12 Thread Tjohn
Garrison Keillor, the guy from A Prarie Home Companion on a lot of public radio stations. You can find the commerical on the net if you poke around a bit. On 1/11/07, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curt mentioned: Honda has a brilliant diesel marketing campaign in the UK based largely

[MBZ] Why are the FEDS boycotting diesel cars? (used to be) Ford Diesels?

2007-01-11 Thread Hans Neureiter
Funny how that thread veered off from Diesels in NA to Mazda. The article exclaims that cars with diesels don't sell in the USA. They are not available, that's why. No law that they can't be sold, but the deal we made, Mr. importer, is off if you do. Hybrids are the IN-thing for the moment (just

Re: [MBZ] Why are the FEDS boycotting diesel cars? (used to be) Ford Diesels?

2007-01-11 Thread Peter Frederick
I heard from the head of the local MB dealer's shop that they stopped putting them on the lot here in 1986, because they could not get buyers to even test drive them. Absolutely refused. Turned themselves inside out for a 420, refused to even look at a 300SDL, even though they are very

Re: [MBZ] Why are the FEDS boycotting diesel cars? (used to be) Ford Diesels?

2007-01-11 Thread David Brodbeck
Hans Neureiter wrote: Funny how that thread veered off from Diesels in NA to Mazda. The article exclaims that cars with diesels don't sell in the USA. They are not available, that's why. VW TDIs tend not to stay on the lot long, but I suspect VW is carefully limiting supply to make sure

Re: [MBZ] Why are the FEDS boycotting diesel cars? (used to be) Ford Diesels?

2007-01-11 Thread David Brodbeck
Hans Neureiter wrote: And our infamous EPA, in bed with the Detroit giants, has everything and all to do with that. Oh, one more thing...if the EPA was in bed with Detroit, I wouldn't expect them to be pushing hybrid tech. The Big 3 are way behind in that area. They'd have an easier time

Re: [MBZ] Why are the FEDS boycotting diesel cars? (used to be) Ford Diesels?

2007-01-11 Thread kevin kraly
seeing Ford Powerstrokes clattering and belching soot doesn't help people accept the same technology in cars. ;) Besides the gee whiz factor, I think a big reason hybrids have caught the public's attention is they're seen as delivering diesel fuel economy, but with clean gasoline instead of

Re: [MBZ] Why are the FEDS boycotting diesel cars? (used to be) Ford Diesels?

2007-01-11 Thread Allan Streib
kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Duramax is much the same with very littel diesel smell, especially the newer ones. Duramax is an Izuzu engine, is it not? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230

Re: [MBZ] Why are the FEDS boycotting diesel cars? (used to be) Ford Diesels?

2007-01-11 Thread David Brodbeck
kevin kraly wrote: My '06 Dodge/Cummins is smooth, quiet, and doesn't have the TRADITIONAL diesel smell. I can smell that sooty smell when a PowerCHOKE goes by, powerCHOKE since one practically CHOKES when smelling the exhaust. To be fair, the Powerstrokes burn pretty clean as they come

Re: [MBZ] Why are the FEDS boycotting diesel cars? (used to be) Ford Diesels?

2007-01-11 Thread Hans Neureiter
Somehow brainwashing comes to mind. With media tools, like ads and other marketing aids, the public opinion can be, and obviously is, turned in one direction or another. Escapes me why diesels had been made looking bad ever since the 80's. Than there were MB's, Volvos, VW's, Peugeots, Mazdas and

Re: [MBZ] Why are the FEDS boycotting diesel cars? (used to be) Ford Diesels?

2007-01-11 Thread Curt Raymond
I tried to get an appointment to see a Jeep Liberty diesel. The dealer laughed and laughed, there was no way he could get one. Turns out Jeep was putting out like 4000 of them a year... Honda has a brilliant diesel marketing campaign in the UK based largely on an American radio personality...

Re: [MBZ] Why are the FEDS boycotting diesel cars? (used to be)Ford Diesels?

2007-01-11 Thread kevin kraly
Duramax is an Izuzu engine, is it not? Yep, it's an Isuzu engine, at least partly. I'm not sure how much GM helped with the design. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula