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2013-12-11 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
On 12/10/2013 11:57 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: If the USB ports don't work with Knoppix I would suspect a hardware problem rather than a disk problem. A rootkit virus on the non-boot drive should not affect a Knoppix CD/DVD anyway as it cannot install. G: The USB ports did work with Knoppix; d

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2013-12-10 Thread Craig
On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 23:28:23 -0600 Peter Frederick wrote: > No, serial ATA drives use a serial connection and are not > interchangable with PATA, at least not in a laptop with no room for a > converter board. That's what I thought, but the way you originally worded it implied otherwise. >

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2013-12-10 Thread Peter Frederick
2.5" hard drives have been getting thinner and thinner as the years go by. None of the SATA ones I've seen (320GB or smaller) are very thick, certainly nothing like the old 20GB PATA drives. Best to measure the old one and shop for one the same thickness. The interfaces are standard, but th

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2013-12-10 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: > > All hard drives have the same connector, either standard parallel ATA or > serial ATA, they are usually attached to a custom sled of some sort, but > they are ALL the same. The only thing specific to a particular laptop is > the cable th

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2013-12-10 Thread Peter Frederick
No, serial ATA drives use a serial connection and are not interchangable with PATA, at least not in a laptop with no room for a converter board. However, any serial ATA 2.5" drive will interchange with any other serial ATA 2.5" drive unless it's too thick to fit. Very unlikely in an SATA

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2013-12-10 Thread Craig
On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 22:57:48 -0600 Peter Frederick wrote: > If the USB ports don't work with Knoppix I would suspect a hardware > problem rather than a disk problem. A rootkit virus on the non-boot > drive should not affect a Knoppix CD/DVD anyway as it cannot install. A good reason to use

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2013-12-10 Thread Peter Frederick
If the USB ports don't work with Knoppix I would suspect a hardware problem rather than a disk problem. A rootkit virus on the non-boot drive should not affect a Knoppix CD/DVD anyway as it cannot install. All hard drives have the same connector, either standard parallel ATA or serial ATA,

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2013-12-10 Thread Jim Cathey
OSX won't prevent a hard drive failure though... Nope, but it comes with Time Machine, which means you can get _everything_ back, if you have a destination drive/machine, and bother to turn it on. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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2013-12-10 Thread Dan Penoff
B e sure the heat "radiator" is clean. In many laptops you can pull the keyboard and access the fan and heat pipes/radiator. One of the biggest issues I saw when I was working on laptops for the school district was a little "Hitler mustache" you would find blocking off the airflow to the heat

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2013-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I got it done with the boot cd. Now dealing with heat. These Lenovo x100e run very hot and trying to deal with that. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 10, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Rich Thomas > wrote: > > There is one that will do that directly when you boot up, I forget what it is > called, but kinda

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2013-12-10 Thread OK Don
As Kaleb would say, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: > sure you do as scsi drives never fail. it's like one in a million! > > > -- > OK Don "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty n

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2013-12-10 Thread Rich Thomas
There is one that will do that directly when you boot up, I forget what it is called, but kinda the same deal, it just finds the file and lets you change the password or delete it all together. Send me wunnathem laptops --R On 12/10/13 11:51 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I'm actually burning

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2013-12-10 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Dec 10, 2013 8:54 AM, "Curt Raymond" wrote: > > > The Mac OS strings crap all over the > place and makes it super hard to > uninstall things You misspelled "Windows." Hope this helps. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.

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2013-12-10 Thread Dan Penoff
ning Puppy from a USB drive for half a year, mostly because >>> shutdowns with Puppy are slow and we now support CentOS on our big storage >>> at work so I should practice with it. >>> >>> -Curt >>> >>> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 05:00:20 -0600 >

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2013-12-10 Thread Curt Raymond
-0500 From: Dan Penoff To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] WinXP with Rootkit virus:  Continued. Message-ID: <0856fb18-76c1-4859-b8f2-ddf4acbd1...@penoff.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Two backups, an image, and plenty of tools. Ultimate Boot CD is al

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2013-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
alf a year, mostly because >> shutdowns with Puppy are slow and we now support CentOS on our big storage >> at work so I should practice with it. >> >> -Curt >> >> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 05:00:20 -0600 >> From: Rick Knoble >> To: Mercedes Discussion

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2013-12-10 Thread Gary Hurst
sure you do as scsi drives never fail. it's like one in a million! On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > You just don't want to host it in some guy's garage in Tronna. > > Dan > > > On Dec 10, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: > > > > although despite what professor sexton

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2013-12-10 Thread Dan Penoff
You just don't want to host it in some guy's garage in Tronna. Dan > On Dec 10, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: > > although despite what professor sexton might think. you CAN actually back > up your HD > > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Rick Knoble wrote: > >> On Dec 10, 2013, at

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2013-12-10 Thread Gary Hurst
although despite what professor sexton might think. you CAN actually back up your HD On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Rick Knoble wrote: > On Dec 10, 2013, at 8:45 AM, "Dan Penoff" wrote: > > > For real data integrity, I use a Mac. > > > Perhaps for avoiding viral infections, root kits, Trojan

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2013-12-10 Thread Dan Penoff
Very true. However, I run a couple if different utilities (Disk Warrior, for example) that watch over the hardware side to alert me when things are getting sketchy. Dan > On Dec 10, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Rick Knoble wrote: > >> On Dec 10, 2013, at 8:45 AM, "Dan Penoff" wrote: >> >> For real da

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2013-12-10 Thread Rick Knoble
On Dec 10, 2013, at 8:45 AM, "Dan Penoff" wrote: > For real data integrity, I use a Mac. Perhaps for avoiding viral infections, root kits, Trojans and worms. OSX won't prevent a hard drive failure though... Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.c

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2013-12-10 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
On 12/10/2013 6:00 AM, Rick Knoble wrote: On Dec 10, 2013, at 2:36 AM, "arche...@embarqmail.com" wrote: You're making me wonder if there is some way I can use Knoppix or one of the other Linux distros I have to get the emails and other data out of the OS? I can put data "into" the OS using t

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2013-12-10 Thread Dan Penoff
torage at work so I > should practice with it. > > -Curt > > Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 05:00:20 -0600 > From: Rick Knoble > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] WinXP with Rootkit virus: Continued. > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; c

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2013-12-10 Thread Curt Raymond
cause shutdowns with Puppy are slow and we now support CentOS on our big storage at work so I should practice with it. -Curt Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 05:00:20 -0600 From: Rick Knoble To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] WinXP with Rootkit virus:  Continued. Message-ID: Content

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2013-12-10 Thread Rich Thomas
Now you braked it your a looser --R On 12/10/13 6:42 AM, Rick Knoble wrote: On Dec 10, 2013, at 5:00 AM, "Rick Knoble" wrote: The only caveat I can think of is that email stored longer than 180 days looses its privacy protection. Loses. Yeah I know. What a looser. I forgot to proofread.

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2013-12-10 Thread Rick Knoble
On Dec 10, 2013, at 5:00 AM, "Rick Knoble" wrote: > The only caveat I can think of is that email stored longer than 180 days > looses its privacy protection. Loses. Yeah I know. What a looser. I forgot to proofread. http://www.ross.net/notes/loose.shtml Rick Sent from my iPhone _

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2013-12-10 Thread Rick Knoble
On Dec 10, 2013, at 2:36 AM, "arche...@embarqmail.com" wrote: > You're making me wonder if there is some way I can use Knoppix or one of the > other Linux distros I have to get the emails and other data out of the OS? I > can put data "into" the OS using the disk drive but can't take any out.

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2013-12-10 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
On 12/9/2013 10:37 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: If you can run Knoppix you should be able to move files without a problem to a USB drive or to a DVD-RAM disk, then copy back after you re-format and fix the drive. G: Problem is that no usb ports work (except for one that a particular mouse will w

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2013-12-09 Thread Russ Williams
Gerry, I have a Win XP Home w/SP3 I can send to you. Email me your address and I'll send it out tomorrow. Russ W. On 12/9/2013 19:40, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: That would be great if you can find it. Thanks, Gerry On 12/9/2013 8:30 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Curt gave me an XP install disk s

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2013-12-09 Thread Peter Frederick
If you can run Knoppix you should be able to move files without a problem to a USB drive or to a DVD-RAM disk, then copy back after you re-format and fix the drive. Or get any suitable hard drive and case, then swap in a new drive, install the OS and put the old drive in an external case an

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2013-12-09 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
ough, Gerry have you actually tried it? -Curt Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2013 20:30:39 -0500 From: Mitch Haley To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] WinXP with Rootkit virus: Continued. Message-ID: <52a66ebf.6080...@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

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2013-12-09 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: Thats a Pro disk which he says he's already got. I dunno that it wouldn't work though, Gerry have you actually tried it? Did the disk I have come with an unlimited key? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://

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2013-12-09 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
That would be great if you can find it. Thanks, Gerry On 12/9/2013 8:30 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Curt gave me an XP install disk some years back, and I slipstreamed service pack 3 onto it and burned a new copy or two. Perhaps I can dig it up and mail you a copy? Mitch. __

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2013-12-09 Thread Curt Raymond
Thats a Pro disk which he says he's already got. I dunno that it wouldn't work though, Gerry have you actually tried it? -Curt Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2013 20:30:39 -0500 From: Mitch Haley To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] WinXP with Rootkit virus:  Continued.

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2013-12-09 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Thanks. I'll see if I can find a Fujitsu-like drive for this laptop. Gerry On 12/9/2013 8:23 PM, clay wrote: A good way to tackle messed up installs and drive for me, has been to remove the bad one, insert a fresh drive and make a clean install. Toss the ex-drive into an external case and su

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2013-12-09 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt gave me an XP install disk some years back, and I slipstreamed service pack 3 onto it and burned a new copy or two. Perhaps I can dig it up and mail you a copy? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archiv

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2013-12-09 Thread clay
A good way to tackle messed up installs and drive for me, has been to remove the bad one, insert a fresh drive and make a clean install. Toss the ex-drive into an external case and suck your data back over. clay On Dec 9, 2013, at 5:18 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: > To make a long story

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2013-12-09 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
To make a long story short, Windows Defender Offline (WDO) found 2 Java/cve viruses which were removed but neither the USB ports, keyboard, regular mice, or the CD-Rs ability to copy files from the laptop were restored to operation. The CD-R can download files to the laptop, however. An old