Re: [MBZ] fantasies

2010-03-10 Thread Bob Rentfro
As my grandfather used to say, Ty-oda needs to truthfully figure out two things: - root cause - transportability Then they need to do two things: - fix all their vehicles - commence damage control (lame 0% interest comercials aren't enough) Bob R On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:01 PM, archer

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2010-03-10 Thread Curt Raymond
... -Curt Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:42:51 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] fantasies Message-ID: m18wa0kic4@cs.indiana.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: Have

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2010-03-10 Thread R A Bennell
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 5:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] fantasies Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: Makes me wonder why the brakes on a Pious could not stop the car -- the gas engine

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2010-03-09 Thread RELNGSON
RT posts: .There was a scare story on the radio this morning about a Pious that unintendedly accelerated in Collyfawnya AFTER having the fix, was up to 90mph, a cop was following the guy and got in front of it to stop it until the guy could somehow shut it off. snip Just about 100%

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2010-03-09 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 3:37 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] fantasies RT posts: .There was a scare story on the radio this morning about a Pious that unintendedly accelerated in Collyfawnya AFTER having the fix, was up to 90mph, a cop was following the guy

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2010-03-09 Thread Rich Thomas
Well the story I first heard was on NPR and I was probably still half asleep, but some of the details were repeated in later stories, but which have also become different as the day has proceeded. Makes me wonder why the brakes on a Pious could not stop the car -- the gas engine is not that

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2010-03-09 Thread Allan Streib
Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: Makes me wonder why the brakes on a Pious could not stop the car -- the gas engine is not that powerful, but perhaps if regen braking is generally used in addition to mechanical means and that did not kick in, or maybe the pad brakes

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2010-03-09 Thread Allan Streib
Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu writes: A Prius is not a powerful car, it must take some length of time to go from 60 - 90. In fact I am surprised to hear that a Prius can achieve 90MPH. I would have guessed 80 might be the top end, and that's being generous. -- 1983 300D

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2010-03-09 Thread Rich Thomas
It appears to have occurred in some stretch of road that involved a mountain pass somewhere around San Diego (I am not familiar with the area), whether going up or down was not clear. Something too about a truck run-off at some point along the way. But sounded like there was a high

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2010-03-09 Thread Curt Raymond
@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] fantasies Message-ID: m1hbopjcpy@cs.indiana.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: Makes me wonder why the brakes on a Pious could not stop the car -- the gas engine is not that powerful

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2010-03-09 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: In fact I am surprised to hear that a Prius can achieve 90MPH. I would have guessed 80 might be the top end, and that's being generous. A 94hp Plymouth Horizon will do 112-113mph with less than ideal gearing (approaching the rev limiter in 4th or well below the power

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2010-03-09 Thread Allan Streib
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: Have you driven a Prius? I have and I've ridden in one plenty (2nd gen) and I wouldn't consider them underpowered. At least as fast as a turbo 617 300D, probably faster. No, but I've driven behind them and those clown cars can't seem to get out of

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2010-03-09 Thread OK Don
They must drive slowly to keep their fuel economy high, to maintain their sefl-image. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: No, but I've driven behind them and those clown cars can't seem to get out of their own way. -- OK Don Panic! (the national past

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2010-03-09 Thread Rich Thomas
Saving the planet is not a speedy proposition. --R On 3/9/2010 9:54 PM, OK Don wrote: They must drive slowly to keep their fuel economy high, to maintain their sefl-image. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: No, but I've driven behind them and those

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2010-03-09 Thread archer
Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu writes: A Prius is not a powerful car, it must take some length of time to go from 60 - 90. In fact I am surprised to hear that a Prius can achieve 90MPH. I would have guessed 80 might be the top end, and that's being generous. 1983 300D