Re: [MBZ] maybe a bit off topic

2018-07-12 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
+1 G Mann via Mercedes wrote: IMHO, there is none. EPA mandates have driven all the manufacturers to computer controls in order to "meet the latest emission standards" which are dictated without regard to common sense or practical application. Some EPA official simply picks a number out of his a

Re: [MBZ] maybe a bit off topic

2018-07-11 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 00:50:55 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > Ah. Here's an article with someones list of low-tech cars. > https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/top-12-cars-for-technophobes That article leads to: https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/avoiding-a-flood-damaged-car Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] maybe a bit off topic

2018-07-10 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Randy wrote: > My question for you,  is what is likely the simplest new, or at > least relatively late model, car available today? I think the Nissan pickup is available with a manual transmission, manual windows and locks, etc. Ah. Here's an article with someones list of low-tech cars. https

Re: [MBZ] maybe a bit off topic

2018-07-10 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 10/07/2018 3:39 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: IMHO, there is none. Edited to remove some of the message So. your options are... drive an old Mercedes for as long as you can support it with parts and are able to fix it... Edited some more to remove even more So, I guess I had best keep

Re: [MBZ] maybe a bit off topic

2018-07-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Yeah, I know. My 300TD is still in the shop... On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 4:41 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Run a heavy magnet over the computer, or any component on that KIA and see > how far it is to the bus stop... It may be "simple " but it's vulnerable as > hell, and if it breaks, it's a

Re: [MBZ] maybe a bit off topic

2018-07-10 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Run a heavy magnet over the computer, or any component on that KIA and see how far it is to the bus stop... It may be "simple " but it's vulnerable as hell, and if it breaks, it's a dealer only fix. On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 1:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >

Re: [MBZ] maybe a bit off topic

2018-07-10 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
IMHO, there is none. EPA mandates have driven all the manufacturers to computer controls in order to "meet the latest emission standards" which are dictated without regard to common sense or practical application. Some EPA official simply picks a number out of his ass for every human to "comply wit

Re: [MBZ] maybe a bit off topic

2018-07-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I'm driving a Kia Sportage rental SUV with relatively simple options, the most advanced being a very unhelpful rear back up camera. On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 4:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Whatever base model 2wd pickup you can find, probably the 6cyl. Won't be

Re: [MBZ] maybe a bit off topic

2018-07-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Whatever base model 2wd pickup you can find, probably the 6cyl. Won't be able to get a manual but rubber floor mat, base interior etc... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 4:21 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: Many people think the old 240D is a great car b

[MBZ] maybe a bit off topic

2018-07-10 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Many people think the old 240D is a great car because it tends to be very simple. Nothing electronic. If you find one with a manual transmission and manual windows it is about as simple as a vehicle gets. The most likely thing to cause you trouble is probably the AC if it has it installed. My