Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee

2014-03-26 Thread Curt Raymond
good, the trunk still needs a periodic shot. I should pull that lock and clean it. -Curt Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 17:23:38 -0400 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee Message-ID: 1d0c9f0a-eb5e-4deb-b998-6a4ba9b2b

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee

2014-03-26 Thread Dan Penoff
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee Message-ID: 1d0c9f0a-eb5e-4deb-b998-6a4ba9b2b...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just order a new key from the dealer with your VIN. Cheap, and you'll be sure that it's the right key

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee

2014-03-26 Thread Randy Bennell
Isn't it interesting that Dan and I can disagree? I said I was advised to use oil. He said one should never use oil. Neither one of us called the other any inappropriate names etc. Quite civilized. Randy On 25/03/2014 4:23 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Just order a new key from the dealer with

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee

2014-03-26 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
That's probably because you are a lawyer and Dan is a teacher. Both of you are trained to remain civil even when you are dealing with someone who is obviously and persistently wrong Personally, I think a lot of Americas troubles are due to having nearly all lawyers running the government.

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee

2014-03-26 Thread ernest breakfield
:23:38 -0400 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee Message-ID: 1d0c9f0a-eb5e-4deb-b998-6a4ba9b2b...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just order a new key from the dealer with your VIN. Cheap

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee

2014-03-26 Thread Frederick Moir
Benz sells an MBZ approved lock lubricant. Cost unknown.   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee

2014-03-26 Thread Randy Bennell
On 26/03/2014 11:36 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: That's probably because you are a lawyer and Dan is a teacher. Both of you are trained to remain civil even when you are dealing with someone who is obviously and persistently wrong Personally, I think a lot of Americas troubles are due

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee

2014-03-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
You omitted your candid assessment of the Manotaba political establishment, or was that deliberate? Harper is public enemy no. 1 south of the border among environmentalists. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 26/03/2014 11:36 AM,

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee

2014-03-26 Thread Randy Bennell
In Manitoba, our socialist leaning Premier, Selinger, is doing his best to bankrupt us. What more would you have me say? Our NDP government is spending like a drunk and raising taxes on a regular basis and telling us they are doing it all for us. Randy On 26/03/2014 12:05 PM, Andrew

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee

2014-03-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Sounds good to me. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: In Manitoba, our socialist leaning Premier, Selinger, is doing his best to bankrupt us. What more would you have me say? Our NDP government is spending like a drunk and raising taxes on a

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee

2014-03-26 Thread Dan Penoff
When in doubt, pinkies out. Or, do you have any Grey Poupon? Hee. Dan trying to be civilized Sent from my iPad On Mar 26, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Isn't it interesting that Dan and I can disagree? I said I was advised to use oil. He said one should

[MBZ] spade key no workee

2014-03-25 Thread Van Knutson
Just for shats giggles, I, for the first time since buying the car 4 yrs ago, put the spade key in the door instead of using electronic ingress as usual.  It fit but gave no inkling of turning / unlocking the car.   I confess testing the physical key in the door didn't occur to me @ time of

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee

2014-03-25 Thread Randy Bennell
On 25/03/2014 2:23 PM, Van Knutson wrote: Just for shats giggles, I, for the first time since buying the car 4 yrs ago, put the spade key in the door instead of using electronic ingress as usual. It fit but gave no inkling of turning / unlocking the car. I confess testing the physical key

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee

2014-03-25 Thread Dan Penoff
Just order a new key from the dealer with your VIN. Cheap, and you'll be sure that it's the right key. NEVER, EVER put oil in a lock. You will make a mess of it for sure. Get a tube of graphite from your local hardware store, or rub a pencil lead all over the key (powered graphite works

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee

2014-03-25 Thread Rich Thomas
What would you use to clean it out? carb cleaner or something that will evaporate (assuming it cleans out whatever gunk is in there)? --R On 3/25/14 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Just order a new key from the dealer with your VIN. Cheap, and you'll be sure that it's the right key. NEVER,

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee

2014-03-25 Thread Dan Penoff
Something that wouldn't leave resigoo. When I worked for the school district I spoke to one of our staff locksmiths (yes, the place was so big they had two locksmiths on staff full time.) I asked him about getting MB keys duped along with some other lock related questions. He said that WD-40

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee

2014-03-25 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Local semi-retired locksmith advised several years ago that WD-40 was the best lubricant for locks. I don't know if it affects a locks longevity, but since then a squirt in my locks has solved all problems. Gerry On 3/25/2014 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Just order a new key from the dealer

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee in lockey

2014-03-25 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Have you tried the other locks? Do you have another key? As said, it's possible that someone fitted another ignition lock to your car. Also as said, spraying liquid in there will turn the crud into crud mud and may well make things worse. The problem is the crud has to come out somehow and the

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee in theory

2014-03-25 Thread Hendrik and Fay
It depends on the lock design I think, as I said if the gunk has no where to go it will turn into liquid gunk and get into all the tiny crevices. General consensus is that if you need lubricant to help operate the lock, the lock is close to failing completely. Ignition locks being the most

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee

2014-03-25 Thread Mountain Man
Gerry wrote: Local semi-retired locksmith advised several years ago that WD-40 was the best lubricant for locks. How about Dri-Slide which has carrier that evaporates and graphite? We used to use it repairing Schwinn bikes - used it for brake and derailleur cables. mao

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee in lockey

2014-03-25 Thread G Mann
I have had great success with a product called TriFlo. It is a mixture of teflon particles and a liquid carrier agent in a spray can, the liquid evaporates leaving the tiny teflon particles behind to lubricate. The advantage is, it leaves nothing to collect or attract dirt and dust. The liquid