Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-09-07 Thread MG
Thanks Dieselhead and Phillip, I will look into Gmail right now. If it works then that should do it. I really prefer to do individual emails because it is easier to reply to them. Manfred From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system Why no

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-09-06 Thread MG
I'll have to take a look at that. Thanks. Manfred Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 17:59:22 -0400 From: Allan Streibbenz Subject: Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system You get what you pay for. I've been with fastmail.fm for a number of years and they have POP, IMAP, SMTP as well a

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-09-06 Thread Dieselhead
0-50 or more windows some times to open all the emails separately and a whole day to let Yahoo add all their garbage also. Manfred Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 10:21:47 -0400 From: Fred Moir To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system Eudora OSE? Free, Open

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-09-06 Thread Allan Streib
MG writes: > Isn't that just a program that runs on the computer? I can use > Thunderbird to write or read my emails but it won't receive POP from > Yahoo because they won't send it unless you pay. I need an email > provider on the net that would receive the emails that are addressed > to me. The

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-09-06 Thread MG
So where do I go to sign up to make them my email provider and get an email account from them? Manfred Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 09:30:49 -0500 From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system That is my suggestion, but i didn't think anyone

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-09-06 Thread MG
o add all their garbage also. Manfred Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 10:21:47 -0400 From: Fred Moir To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system Eudora OSE? Free, Open source, Text and no advertising Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred _

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-09-06 Thread Dieselhead
That is my suggestion, but i didn't think anyone else on the list used it. It works better than anything else i ever tried. I use the final qualcom releases. (mac or winders) I tried the "new" eudora "based on thunderbird" and it was terrible. Eudora OSE? Free, Open source, Text and no ad

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-09-06 Thread Fred Moir
Eudora OSE? Free, Open source, Text and no advertising Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 9/6/2011 8:43 AM, MG wrote: Yes text downloads are fast, comparatively, but try having to look at all your mail on Yahoo or another online free mail provider with all the garbage that they send along

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-09-06 Thread Dieselhead
need to do with my Mercedes. (notice the subtle inclusion of Mercedes content). :-) Manfred Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 02:36:54 -0500 From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system to each his own I guess. Even on dial up, text downloads very f

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-09-06 Thread MG
. (notice the subtle inclusion of Mercedes content). :-) Manfred Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 02:36:54 -0500 From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system to each his own I guess. Even on dial up, text downloads very fast as opposed to HTML mail

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-09-06 Thread Dieselhead
sideration for others. Manfred Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 15:44:41 -0500 From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system Ah!But you re assuming those who chose the digest version rule the list. I find it much more useful to g

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-09-05 Thread OK Don
I get the email version, after having tried the digest. Way to hard to read the digests. I try to trim my responses to aviod mucking up the digest for those who use them. I use gamil for this list - it sorts the emails by subjest line, grouping most of them together, so I don't have to worry about

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-09-05 Thread MG
nnection doesn't mean everyone has access to one. That would come under consideration for others. Manfred Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 15:44:41 -0500 From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system Ah!But you re as

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-09-05 Thread Craig
On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 15:44:41 -0500 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > In the email mode, I appreciate having the prior posts in the email, > because then if I have a question about some response, comment, or > remark, I can just scroll down and find the post that was referred to. But if y

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-09-05 Thread Dieselhead
Ah!But you re assuming those who chose the digest version rule the list. I find it much more useful to get the messages as email. That way I can search by date, by sender, by subject or for a word anywhere. In the email mode, I appreciate having the prior posts in the email, because the

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-09-05 Thread Max Dillon
You got me! -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-09-05 Thread MG
Dillon To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system Max (signing his post because Marshall is watching) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/ar

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-09-04 Thread Max Dillon
ally got >>>all out. Now I need to get the 4 good ones back in the good engine. >>>I have never needed a GP reamer in 40 years, but I sure wish I had >>>one now. I am having trouble getting the good GPs in the hole far >>>enough to start the threads. >>> &

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-09-04 Thread Dieselhead
nd goal, a running '80 or an '81? Regardless, my thoughts are >>>to ditch the odd one-year relay if reasonably easy. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-09-04 Thread Max Dillon
ng '80 or an '81? Regardless, my thoughts are >>>to ditch the odd one-year relay if reasonably easy. >>> >>>-Max >>> >>>-Original Message- >>>From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] >>>O

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-09-04 Thread Dieselhead
unning '80 or an '81? Regardless, my thoughts are to ditch the odd one-year relay if reasonably easy. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 4:07 PM To: mercedes@okie

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-09-04 Thread Max Dillon
he hole far >>enough to start the threads. >> >> >>>What is the end goal, a running '80 or an '81? Regardless, my thoughts are >>>to ditch the odd one-year relay if reasonably easy. >>> >>>-Max >>> >>>-Original Message

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-09-04 Thread Dieselhead
itch the odd one-year relay if reasonably easy. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 4:07 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system The 80

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-08-15 Thread Curt Raymond
wires AND made it a parallel system, now 10 seconds is plenty of glow when its warm out. I'm planning to put the relay system out of my '83 into the '78, been planning it for a year now... -Curt Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 00:10:08 -0500 From: Fmiser To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-08-15 Thread Dieselhead
I did that in 1995 on my escort. The glow relay was flakey on it. The MB relays are pretty good, and tend to either work or not. But I agree with you. Manual control is best. therefore a 240D 3.0 is better than a 300D as you have manual control of the heater, and if the 240D was a 4 speed,

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-08-14 Thread Fmiser
> Dieselhead wrote: > The 80 240D has pencil glow plugs, with an odd, maybe one year > glow relay. > the 81 has the "normal" style GP relay, with 6 pins, 4 of > which are used for GPs. > Is it easier to swap the relays or to swap the plug for the > sender? I first thought the sender, but since I

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-08-14 Thread Mountain Man
Dieselhead wrote: > GPS in both engines seem to be carboned up really bad. I thought we had taken all of those out? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubs

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-08-14 Thread Dieselhead
2011 4:07 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system The 80 240D has pencil glow plugs, with an odd, maybe one year glow relay. The glow plug harness has 8 pin positions, with 4 for GPs and 2 for water temp sensors. The small plug on the relay (where the violet w

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-08-14 Thread Max Dillon
s the end goal, a running '80 or an '81? Regardless, my thoughts are >>to ditch the odd one-year relay if reasonably easy. >> >>-Max >> >>-Original Message- >>From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] >>On

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-08-14 Thread Max Dillon
'81? Regardless, my thoughts are >>to ditch the odd one-year relay if reasonably easy. >> >>-Max >> >>-Original Message- >>From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] >>On Behalf Of Dieselhead >>Sent: Sunday, August 14

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-08-14 Thread Max Dillon
oun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] >On Behalf Of Dieselhead >Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 4:07 PM >To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >Subject: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system > >The 80 240D has pencil glow plugs, with an odd, maybe one year glow >relay. The glow plu

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-08-14 Thread Dieselhead
Seems to be Mfg defect/end of range of tolerance. THe plugs I took out were 201 039, and the ones I was installing were xxx 201 001 I found some other dead 201 001s, and they went right in. Took a drill and determined the problem was not carbon in the pencil area, but the shank between

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-08-14 Thread Craig
On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 17:41:11 -0400 Mitch Haley wrote: > Dieselhead wrote: > > I have never needed a GP reamer in 40 years, but I sure wish I had > > one now. > > Hammer, anvil, bad glow plug? That's exactly what the Indy I used in Austin, TX, said to do: Mash the end of a glow plug flat with a

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-08-14 Thread Dieselhead
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system The 80 240D has pencil glow plugs, with an odd, maybe one year glow relay. The glow plug harness has 8 pin positions, with 4 for GPs and 2 for water temp sensors. The small plug on the relay (where the violet wire normally resides

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-08-14 Thread Max Dillon
if reasonably easy. > >-Max > >-Original Message- >From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] >On Behalf Of Dieselhead >Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 4:07 PM >To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >Subject: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system > &

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-08-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Dieselhead wrote: I have never needed a GP reamer in 40 years, but I sure wish I had one now. Hammer, anvil, bad glow plug? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-08-14 Thread Dieselhead
y thoughts are to ditch the odd one-year relay if reasonably easy. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 4:07 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the g

Re: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-08-14 Thread Max Dillon
11 4:07 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system The 80 240D has pencil glow plugs, with an odd, maybe one year glow relay. The glow plug harness has 8 pin positions, with 4 for GPs and 2 for water temp sensors. The small plug on the relay (where the v

[MBZ] to 80 or to 81 the glow system

2011-08-14 Thread Dieselhead
The 80 240D has pencil glow plugs, with an odd, maybe one year glow relay. The glow plug harness has 8 pin positions, with 4 for GPs and 2 for water temp sensors. The small plug on the relay (where the violet wire normally resides) has six wires in it, and evidently includes the water temp fo