Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today

2008-04-20 Thread Luther
But wouldn't that go against free market? z Quoting Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That was 3.93 I think. Its 3.88 and up around here. Mostly up. I have a theory though about these stupid high diesel prices. Seems to me like they are artificially holding the price of gas down, and

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today

2008-04-20 Thread Jim Cathey
But wouldn't that go against free market? Free markets are only free if (in addition to many other things) there are enough independent operators to cancel out aberrations in the management of one of said operators. Once you've got a very limited number of suppliers (relative to the number of

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today

2008-04-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yep Luther wrote: But wouldn't that go against free market? z Quoting Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That was 3.93 I think. Its 3.88 and up around here. Mostly up. I have a theory though about these stupid high diesel prices. Seems to me like they are artificially holding

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today

2008-04-20 Thread Luther
So you don't believe in the free market system either Interesting. z Quoting Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: yep Luther wrote: But wouldn't that go against free market? z Quoting Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That was 3.93 I think. Its 3.88 and up around here.

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today

2008-04-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
sure I do Luther wrote: So you don't believe in the free market system either Interesting. z Quoting Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: yep Luther wrote: But wouldn't that go against free market? z Quoting Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That was 3.93 I think.

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today

2008-04-20 Thread Peter Frederick
There is no such thing as a free market -- all markets are controlled by the major players. The only real question is who controls them. Also, profit drives markets, not rational behavior.. Read The New Industrial State by John Kenneth Galbraith. Interestingly, it was written more

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today

2008-04-20 Thread Tom Hargrave
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 8:16 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today There is no such thing as a free market -- all markets are controlled

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today

2008-04-20 Thread Luther
It's ok, Kaleb's living in his own fantasy world. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (176 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting Peter Frederick

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today

2008-04-20 Thread Peter Frederick
Profit is all fine and good, but it's not necessarily rational or the best choice. People will, after all, put profit ahead of anything else. Profit is driven by greed, after all, and greed is one of the seven deadly sins for a reason -- the industrialists in Germany couldn't keep their

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today

2008-04-20 Thread Luther
In the electronics industry, production cost is THE major player in selling price. My uncle works for a division of HP in RD/Sales and his saying is that the first new item off the assembly line will cost $500,000 and each one thereafter will cost $0.05. Comparing the electronics industry to

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today

2008-04-20 Thread Tom Hargrave
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 9:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today In the electronics industry, production cost is THE major player in selling price. My uncle works for a division of HP

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today

2008-04-20 Thread Timothy Robinson
Of Luther Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 9:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today In the electronics industry, production cost is THE major player in selling price. My uncle works for a division of HP in RD/Sales and his saying

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today

2008-04-19 Thread Peter Frederick
Diesel fuel will drop later in the spring when the demand for home heating oil drops off for the summer. This is just the opposite of gas prices. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today

2008-04-19 Thread Curt Raymond
full tanks. The sun is shining, the birds are singing and the road calls. The Honda needs a valve cover gasket so its tank is draining while I go for a ride... -Curt Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 09:47:35 -0500 From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today

2008-04-19 Thread LWB250
I already went out once today - Panera's for breakfast. Amazing how many old people are up early on a Saturday just to sit around and read the paper... Dan --- Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course its motorcycle day, I've got 3 right now, mine ('82 Honda CB900f) my wife's ('89

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today

2008-04-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
That was 3.93 I think. Its 3.88 and up around here. Mostly up. I have a theory though about these stupid high diesel prices. Seems to me like they are artificially holding the price of gas down, and inflating the price of diesel to make their profit. tom savage wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today

2008-04-18 Thread Timothy Robinson
Remember decades ago when the main complaint against driving a diesel was Oh, I don't like having to drive to a truck stop for fuel (most gas stations didn't carry diesel). Today when filling I stopped at an old fuel oil (heating) company, kinda off the beaten path. I'd known they sold retail for

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today

2008-04-17 Thread tom savage
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: it cost over $80, GEEZ. Was thinking about selling one of my 2.5 turbos but since it gets 33 mpg might have to keep it and make regina drive it. You're getting off cheap. How much are you buying and how much is diesel in Oklahoma? I set a new record in my 140 last

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today

2008-04-17 Thread Jim Cathey
Remember in 2004 when everyone freaked out when gas hit two bucks and diesel held steady at $1.60? My first diesel was our newest vehicle, the '97 Dodge. I remember filling it up the first week I had it in late '98, on a road trip, at $0.99/gallon, and getting change back from a $20. Now I